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Bollocks. Getting mired up in a ground war is the worst thing that can happen ( as evidenced by the Afghan war) where as Iraq was swiftly defeated using bunker busters, smart bombs etc
GOP Rep. Michael McCaul calls Tommy Tuberville’s military promotions blockade a 'national security problem'
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Iraq was swiftly defeated but then we had to fight al-Qaeda with troops on the ground for 8 years. Muslim fighters came in from all over the world to fight us. If you are going to conquer and hold a country you need troops on the ground eliminating their troops on the ground.
DriveInDriveOut
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He literally ran on the lie that he was going to get us out of there. A lot of very stupid people believed him. A lot of very stupid people still defend his lies to this day.
Barrack Hussein Obama is an opportunistic grifting liar with a cult following.
Next Day Err
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It was a broken promise, yes.
newolddude
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DriveInDriveOut
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Your political party is holding back our military promotions because they are more interested in getting blood sacrifices to moloch.
All they have to do is agree to stop using taxpayer money for abortion related expenses. But they won't.
Fred's Myth
Nonhyphenated American
Wow!
Sportello
Banned
Why did Donnie release 5000 Taliban prisoners and hand over the Afghan gov't to the Taliban?
The same people he wanted to host at Camp David on the 4th of July?
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Really? I don't know what happened in Afghanistan on Earth 2...but here on earth? THE President, in two weeks, airlifted 122K American Citizens OUT of harm's way. The irony of your B.S., of course, is that from February 2020 through January 2021...the 11 months which followed donnie and mount pompeo's "Surrender Agreement with Taliban Terrorists" (General MacMaster) which saw the U.S. remove all but 2.5K of our Sons and Daughters, not even sufficient force strength to defend themselves, while releasing TWICE that many Taliban Terrorist fighters AND the primary Military Tactician (now president) from Afghan prisons. The Taliban also secured our Immediate Surrender of 5 military bases, and the cessation of all airstrikes against their positions. They was a great help to the Taliban, because the day after they accepted our Surrender, they resumed attacks against the outer provinces. Now, let's REALLY talk about those American Citizens. First, there were in fact 207 Americans left in Afghanistan AFTER Joe evacuated 122K American Citizens. Those 207 were there because they were contacted by The U.S. Government & decided to stay. Why? Most had Dual U.S. And Afghan citizenship. They and the remainder, who were American Citizens, had deep family and community ties with the people of Afghanistan. Now, let's talk about that "contacted by the U.S. Government part: Here was the biggest problem Joe was faced with & overcame. Some, but not all of those 122K U.S. Citizen's names, locations or contact information was available. Why that should amaze you is because American Citizens, for the first time I can recall, 'mysteriously', were NOT required to register with the U.S. Embassy when entering a war zone. Worse, once he signed our Surrender, donnie just completely lost interest. In fact, according to his Secretary of Defense, Mark Esper, it wasn't until he LOST THE ELECTION that he regained his interest. What did renewed 'interest' cause him to do? According to SecDef Esper: "He undermined his own agreement" by ORDERING ALL troops removed by Christmas, '20, instead of May of 2021. He was reminded there were Americans in harm's way for 9 months at that point...so he left 2.5K
troops. He did NOTHING to even plan for the removal of all those souls and materiel...NOTHING...In fact, Esper made it clear he believed, at that point, in a fit of anger, THIS
You mean the American citizens Joe left behind then had to come back to get them? How about the over a thousand Americans left behind because they couldn't get through Taliban roadblocks because Biden let the Taliban take over Kabul in spite THE TALIBAN OFFERING TO LET HIM CONTROL KABUL DURING THE WITHDRAWAL!Why did Donnie release 5000 Taliban prisoners and hand over the Afghan gov't to the Taliban?
The same people he wanted to host at Camp David on the 4th of July?
This is copied from another author:
Really? I don't know what happened in Afghanistan on Earth 2...but here on earth? THE President, in two weeks, airlifted 122K American Citizens OUT of harm's way. The irony of your B.S., of course, is that from February 2020 through January 2021...the 11 months which followed donnie and mount pompeo's "Surrender Agreement with Taliban Terrorists" (General MacMaster) which saw the U.S. remove all but 2.5K of our Sons and Daughters, not even sufficient force strength to defend themselves, while releasing TWICE that many Taliban Terrorist fighters AND the primary Military Tactician (now president) from Afghan prisons. The Taliban also secured our Immediate Surrender of 5 military bases, and the cessation of all airstrikes against their positions. They was a great help to the Taliban, because the day after they accepted our Surrender, they resumed attacks against the outer provinces. Now, let's REALLY talk about those American Citizens. First, there were in fact 207 Americans left in Afghanistan AFTER Joe evacuated 122K American Citizens. Those 207 were there because they were contacted by The U.S. Government & decided to stay. Why? Most had Dual U.S. And Afghan citizenship. They and the remainder, who were American Citizens, had deep family and community ties with the people of Afghanistan. Now, let's talk about that "contacted by the U.S. Government part: Here was the biggest problem Joe was faced with & overcame. Some, but not all of those 122K U.S. Citizen's names, locations or contact information was available. Why that should amaze you is because American Citizens, for the first time I can recall, 'mysteriously', were NOT required to register with the U.S. Embassy when entering a war zone. Worse, once he signed our Surrender, donnie just completely lost interest. In fact, according to his Secretary of Defense, Mark Esper, it wasn't until he LOST THE ELECTION that he regained his interest. What did renewed 'interest' cause him to do? According to SecDef Esper: "He undermined his own agreement" by ORDERING ALL troops removed by Christmas, '20, instead of May of 2021. He was reminded there were Americans in harm's way for 9 months at that point...so he left 2.5K
troops. He did NOTHING to even plan for the removal of all those souls and materiel...NOTHING...In fact, Esper made it clear he believed, at that point, in a fit of anger, THISwas his only intent.
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Don't forget the 100,000 plus Afghan allies and their families who were promised to be relocated to the U.S. when the U.S. left but were left behind. Many of them were executed.
And Trump let the Taliban take over the government? Biden withdrew air support from the Afghan Army and the Taliban then ran over the whole country.
Your spin doesn't matter. The public is well aware that Biden effed up and got a lot of people killed. Trump never surrendered anything. He negotiated a withdrawal of American troops and our allies. It was then up to the Afghan Army to defend their government. Trump would've never closed Bagram Air Base before leaving.
Guess y'all are trying to rewrite history before next year's election. Biden needs help.
newolddude
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Tuberville drops holds on more than 430 military promotions
The move is a signifcant breakthrough in the 10-month standoff between the GOP lawmaker and Pentagon leaders over abortion.
www.militarytimes.com
