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<blockquote data-quote="av8torntn" data-source="post: 691907" data-attributes="member: 8259"><p>Sorry I overlooked your post. Tort reform has really been a states issue in the past. The states that have done it have seen increases in medical providers, reduction in malpractice insurance rates, reduction in defensive medical tests, and surprisingly a reduction in malpractice lawsuits.</p><p> </p><p>States that have not done tort reform have seen medical costs rise at a faster rate than other states and doctors leave rural areas. This in the most basic terms is an increase in the cost to provide a service and a decrease in the supply of the service. </p><p> </p><p>In my opinion civil laws should be left up to the states. The problem is that you cannot ignore the pink elephant in the room(Medicare). Let's just ignore the fact that Medicare is a stupid program without some type of reform you now have the Federal government taking money from a state that is more efficient to give to a state that is less efficient. In the simplest terms you are rewarding failure. Medicare is really the only way to justify Federal medical tort reform.</p><p> </p><p>This takes us back to the issue at hand. People are demanding that health care costs be lower. Bottom line that is the primary concern. All the polls that I have looked at either outright state this or strongly suggest this. There is a proven way to reduce health care costs in this country and that is by tort reform. Without tort reform you end up with a exodus of capacity which in turn leads to a decrease in affordability. This is a provable recurring problem that I know has existed since the 1970's in this country. </p><p> </p><p>A secondary problem without tort reform is that medical providers eliminate risky procedures that lower the quality of care. This is a reduction in health care quality. </p><p> </p><p>Here are some facts. In medical malpractice awards that go to jury the defendant wins 80% of the time. The average defense cost is $87,000. The average cost to defend a case that gets dismissed is $17,000. The growth in the size of jury awards and settlements has grown at a faster rate than the costs of health care according to the AMA(that one was for diesel). Medical liability adds billions to the costs of health care each year.( Thats from the HHS for you lovers of the Federal government). The HHS says that the litigation system not only raises costs but decreases quality. Another thing ,medical liability costs have outpaced the costs of overall tort in the US.(AMA) </p><p> </p><p>Here is a brief summary of the benefits of tort reform from the CBO. It's only about seven pages but if you are interested in the subject really brings things down to the most basic level. The President and Congress want to spend a trillion dollars and there is a nifty chart there that show the enormous amount of money that would be saved and also reduce the national debt at the same time. The CBO also says that premiums would actually be reduced by 10% with national tort reform. This would reduce national health care expenditures by 35 billion dollars. If all the most common tort reform ideas were passed there would be an estimated national savings of a trillion dollars over ten years versus the Obama plan at a cost of a trillion dollars over ten years. That is a huge swing. By 2019 there could be a 54% reduction in the deficit with tort reform. Mind you that this takes into account that some states have already adopted these changes.</p><p> </p><p>I had more but I doubt anyone read all that anyhow.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10641/10-09-Tort_Reform.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Link</span></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="av8torntn, post: 691907, member: 8259"] Sorry I overlooked your post. Tort reform has really been a states issue in the past. The states that have done it have seen increases in medical providers, reduction in malpractice insurance rates, reduction in defensive medical tests, and surprisingly a reduction in malpractice lawsuits. States that have not done tort reform have seen medical costs rise at a faster rate than other states and doctors leave rural areas. This in the most basic terms is an increase in the cost to provide a service and a decrease in the supply of the service. In my opinion civil laws should be left up to the states. The problem is that you cannot ignore the pink elephant in the room(Medicare). Let's just ignore the fact that Medicare is a stupid program without some type of reform you now have the Federal government taking money from a state that is more efficient to give to a state that is less efficient. In the simplest terms you are rewarding failure. Medicare is really the only way to justify Federal medical tort reform. This takes us back to the issue at hand. People are demanding that health care costs be lower. Bottom line that is the primary concern. All the polls that I have looked at either outright state this or strongly suggest this. There is a proven way to reduce health care costs in this country and that is by tort reform. Without tort reform you end up with a exodus of capacity which in turn leads to a decrease in affordability. This is a provable recurring problem that I know has existed since the 1970's in this country. A secondary problem without tort reform is that medical providers eliminate risky procedures that lower the quality of care. This is a reduction in health care quality. Here are some facts. In medical malpractice awards that go to jury the defendant wins 80% of the time. The average defense cost is $87,000. The average cost to defend a case that gets dismissed is $17,000. The growth in the size of jury awards and settlements has grown at a faster rate than the costs of health care according to the AMA(that one was for diesel). Medical liability adds billions to the costs of health care each year.( Thats from the HHS for you lovers of the Federal government). The HHS says that the litigation system not only raises costs but decreases quality. Another thing ,medical liability costs have outpaced the costs of overall tort in the US.(AMA) Here is a brief summary of the benefits of tort reform from the CBO. It's only about seven pages but if you are interested in the subject really brings things down to the most basic level. The President and Congress want to spend a trillion dollars and there is a nifty chart there that show the enormous amount of money that would be saved and also reduce the national debt at the same time. The CBO also says that premiums would actually be reduced by 10% with national tort reform. This would reduce national health care expenditures by 35 billion dollars. If all the most common tort reform ideas were passed there would be an estimated national savings of a trillion dollars over ten years versus the Obama plan at a cost of a trillion dollars over ten years. That is a huge swing. By 2019 there could be a 54% reduction in the deficit with tort reform. Mind you that this takes into account that some states have already adopted these changes. I had more but I doubt anyone read all that anyhow. [URL="http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/106xx/doc10641/10-09-Tort_Reform.pdf"][COLOR=red]Link[/COLOR][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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