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I want to become a PT supervisor(Yes I said it)
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<blockquote data-quote="PiedmontSteward" data-source="post: 1105905" data-attributes="member: 42270"><p>Unless you are absolutely certain you plan to cut ties with UPS after you get your degree (and your degree is in a field where you will be able to land a job) then I strongly suggest against it. There's a few things you should realize, as an hourly:</p><p></p><p>UPS rewards hard work with more hard work.</p><p>The more senior employees that are picking-off ahead of you have earned it with their seniority. They may seem "lazy" but they're in it for the long haul. You can't sling boxes like a madman for 4-5 hours a night for 20 years and expect to be able to pick up your grandchildren or even walk without a limp. At the end of the day, its just cardboard and it's not a production job. </p><p></p><p>Now, straight to brass tacks: </p><p></p><p>You'll get a fairly hefty pay bump out the gate - one hourly that had 6 months under his belt I know of went from ~$10.50/hr to $15.38/hr upon being promoted. However, after that, your raises will be far smaller. PT Management correct me if I'm wrong, but they'll be in the neighborhood of $0.30 - $0.40/year (2-3% annually max). PT'ers finished with their progression during the current contract were receiving larger raises <strong>twice</strong> a year. PT Management also pays out of pocket for health benefits - not a big deal now, but if there's any chance of you staying at UPS and you want to bang out a few kids in the next decade, it will be. I know of a PT supervisor with himself, his wife, and his two kids on his plan and he pays $120/week. </p><p></p><p>You would also be making more a week, to start, by being salaried @ 27.5/week. However, you won't be able to pull double shifts during peak season unless even the least senior guy in the building has already been offered ("all other options exhausted") and turned it down. You'll have virtually no autonomy at all as PT management - UPS is very "top-down" in managerial style; even FT sups only have a bare bones level of decision making they're permitted. Sure, you might be able to make a few operational tweaks here and there - such as moving your employees "to the work", but that's about it. You'll also have to endure heaps and heaps of abuse if your numbers start to appear less-than-desirable (and won't have a union contract/grievance procedure to protect you from harassment, either). Last - but not least - you'll be supervising people that are older than you and make more an hour (and probably a year) than you. </p><p></p><p>After my second or third year, I considered the same thing you're thinking about and didn't pull the trigger. I'm glad I didn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PiedmontSteward, post: 1105905, member: 42270"] Unless you are absolutely certain you plan to cut ties with UPS after you get your degree (and your degree is in a field where you will be able to land a job) then I strongly suggest against it. There's a few things you should realize, as an hourly: UPS rewards hard work with more hard work. The more senior employees that are picking-off ahead of you have earned it with their seniority. They may seem "lazy" but they're in it for the long haul. You can't sling boxes like a madman for 4-5 hours a night for 20 years and expect to be able to pick up your grandchildren or even walk without a limp. At the end of the day, its just cardboard and it's not a production job. Now, straight to brass tacks: You'll get a fairly hefty pay bump out the gate - one hourly that had 6 months under his belt I know of went from ~$10.50/hr to $15.38/hr upon being promoted. However, after that, your raises will be far smaller. PT Management correct me if I'm wrong, but they'll be in the neighborhood of $0.30 - $0.40/year (2-3% annually max). PT'ers finished with their progression during the current contract were receiving larger raises [B]twice[/B] a year. PT Management also pays out of pocket for health benefits - not a big deal now, but if there's any chance of you staying at UPS and you want to bang out a few kids in the next decade, it will be. I know of a PT supervisor with himself, his wife, and his two kids on his plan and he pays $120/week. You would also be making more a week, to start, by being salaried @ 27.5/week. However, you won't be able to pull double shifts during peak season unless even the least senior guy in the building has already been offered ("all other options exhausted") and turned it down. You'll have virtually no autonomy at all as PT management - UPS is very "top-down" in managerial style; even FT sups only have a bare bones level of decision making they're permitted. Sure, you might be able to make a few operational tweaks here and there - such as moving your employees "to the work", but that's about it. You'll also have to endure heaps and heaps of abuse if your numbers start to appear less-than-desirable (and won't have a union contract/grievance procedure to protect you from harassment, either). Last - but not least - you'll be supervising people that are older than you and make more an hour (and probably a year) than you. After my second or third year, I considered the same thing you're thinking about and didn't pull the trigger. I'm glad I didn't. [/QUOTE]
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