Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe Community Center
Current Events
im scratching my head a bit
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 417128" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Every 8 years, the republican party tries to re-invent itself. It all begins with the notion that smaller goverment is there idea, and disciplined fiscal policies are a way of life.</p><p> </p><p>However, begining with Nixon, this just wasnt true. He was a spendthrift in vietnam in a losing scenario and this killed the economy as he handed it to Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter failed to correct the economy with his dumb policies.</p><p> </p><p>Reagan came in, and OVERSPENT on useless military projects that ran the deficit up to 1.5 trillion dollars for the first time in history. He grew the size of goverment 4 times the size of carter and 8 times the size of Nixon.</p><p> </p><p>Everyone talks about tax cuts from Reagan, yet he raised taxes 4 of the 8 years he was president. His policies of deficit spending wiped out any chance that Bush 1 had of running a good goverment.</p><p> </p><p>Bush 1 eventually had to raise taxes to cover the ever growing debt that continued to grow as Bush 1 maintained Reagans policies.</p><p> </p><p>Bush 1 eventually got the deficit to 3.5 trillion before being tossed out in a blowout to Clinton.</p><p> </p><p>Clinton comes in and "red-pens" all the reagan/bush military cr*p and balances the budget by "cutting" the size of goverment spending and reducing the size of goverment agencies.</p><p> </p><p>Bush 2 comes in, and immediately begins to spend wildly, grows the size of goverment 4 times larger than clinton and after 8 years, grows our deficit to 11.5 trillion and growing everyday.</p><p> </p><p>Now, the USA is having to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars from the chinese and Japanese just to pay the interest on the deficit.</p><p> </p><p>We owe China over 500 billion in loans that Bush asked for.</p><p> </p><p>I believe that the ideal that the republicans are the sound fiscal policy party is long over.</p><p> </p><p>I believe that the ideal that the republican party are the party of smaller goverment is a joke.</p><p> </p><p>The american public that are paying attention to our current state of the state see this clearly.</p><p> </p><p>When McCain speaks at his rallies and talks about smaller goverment, I often wonder if his age is affecting his memory?</p><p> </p><p>He is a part of the party that has spent the MOST money of any party in the history of the United States while in control of the goverment. He is a part of the largest growth of goverment in history.</p><p> </p><p>He himself said: "I have voted with the president over 90% percent of the time, more than any other republican".</p><p> </p><p>Now he wants to separate himself from the party of destruction?</p><p> </p><p>This all falls on deaf ears now. </p><p> </p><p>The republicans are in a situation where they either move further to the right or become centrists and closer to the democrats.</p><p> </p><p>If they try to pull everyone to the right, the party will fracture (IMO) and a third party may try and establish themselves.</p><p> </p><p>However, the down side to this is democratic control for years, possibly 16.</p><p> </p><p>Seems like all the republicans have left is Guns, God & Homosexuals to cling to. </p><p> </p><p>The whole patriotism montra stolen from WWII germany isnt working anymore.</p><p> </p><p>Heck, even McCain isnt wearing a flagpin to any events anymore. I dont think he buys it either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 417128, member: 17969"] Every 8 years, the republican party tries to re-invent itself. It all begins with the notion that smaller goverment is there idea, and disciplined fiscal policies are a way of life. However, begining with Nixon, this just wasnt true. He was a spendthrift in vietnam in a losing scenario and this killed the economy as he handed it to Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter failed to correct the economy with his dumb policies. Reagan came in, and OVERSPENT on useless military projects that ran the deficit up to 1.5 trillion dollars for the first time in history. He grew the size of goverment 4 times the size of carter and 8 times the size of Nixon. Everyone talks about tax cuts from Reagan, yet he raised taxes 4 of the 8 years he was president. His policies of deficit spending wiped out any chance that Bush 1 had of running a good goverment. Bush 1 eventually had to raise taxes to cover the ever growing debt that continued to grow as Bush 1 maintained Reagans policies. Bush 1 eventually got the deficit to 3.5 trillion before being tossed out in a blowout to Clinton. Clinton comes in and "red-pens" all the reagan/bush military cr*p and balances the budget by "cutting" the size of goverment spending and reducing the size of goverment agencies. Bush 2 comes in, and immediately begins to spend wildly, grows the size of goverment 4 times larger than clinton and after 8 years, grows our deficit to 11.5 trillion and growing everyday. Now, the USA is having to borrow hundreds of millions of dollars from the chinese and Japanese just to pay the interest on the deficit. We owe China over 500 billion in loans that Bush asked for. I believe that the ideal that the republicans are the sound fiscal policy party is long over. I believe that the ideal that the republican party are the party of smaller goverment is a joke. The american public that are paying attention to our current state of the state see this clearly. When McCain speaks at his rallies and talks about smaller goverment, I often wonder if his age is affecting his memory? He is a part of the party that has spent the MOST money of any party in the history of the United States while in control of the goverment. He is a part of the largest growth of goverment in history. He himself said: "I have voted with the president over 90% percent of the time, more than any other republican". Now he wants to separate himself from the party of destruction? This all falls on deaf ears now. The republicans are in a situation where they either move further to the right or become centrists and closer to the democrats. If they try to pull everyone to the right, the party will fracture (IMO) and a third party may try and establish themselves. However, the down side to this is democratic control for years, possibly 16. Seems like all the republicans have left is Guns, God & Homosexuals to cling to. The whole patriotism montra stolen from WWII germany isnt working anymore. Heck, even McCain isnt wearing a flagpin to any events anymore. I dont think he buys it either. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe Community Center
Current Events
im scratching my head a bit
Top