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In the end, who wins??? And at what cost?
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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 5648971" data-attributes="member: 49065"><p>I forgot about the creation of the 22.3’s , which the Union won after arbitration. Corporate at that time and probably today fought for more part time positions, they had control over most of their pension funds and again paid peanuts compared to our full timers’ and management’s pension trusts. Granted they knew that the Central and other Teamsters pension plans were in the red or heading that way, particularly after Carey was forced to raise their benefit levels to the level that the Company was offering back in “97”.. 100 ft/50 pt cap at 35 years.. if the Company ever got control over those targeted pension plans, the West would of never seen the possibility of 300 to 400 dollars a service year with no caps.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably right on that statement..I do remember something illegal about off shore package insurance charges.</p><p></p><p>Didn’t Scott replace Kelley..?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Correct <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="👍" title="Thumbs up :thumbsup:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/6.6/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Remember that the Central States people are a separate entity, they are not the IBT…it was their decision to penalize UPS more once they started to reduce our retirees’ benefits. The IBT only negotiated monetary increases into our pension and health and welfare plans, the benefit plans then set any increases or changes in benefits.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I said this before, they can raise he part timers wages to 25 bucks an hour and chase them off the clock in 4 or 3.5 hours, 5 days a week and actually save money. Right now the Company is using these part timers as full timers, working them 30 or 40 hours a week, sometimes 6 days a week. It is the same old story…<strong>They do not want to create new full time positions,</strong> and will do anything to make that happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 5648971, member: 49065"] I forgot about the creation of the 22.3’s , which the Union won after arbitration. Corporate at that time and probably today fought for more part time positions, they had control over most of their pension funds and again paid peanuts compared to our full timers’ and management’s pension trusts. Granted they knew that the Central and other Teamsters pension plans were in the red or heading that way, particularly after Carey was forced to raise their benefit levels to the level that the Company was offering back in “97”.. 100 ft/50 pt cap at 35 years.. if the Company ever got control over those targeted pension plans, the West would of never seen the possibility of 300 to 400 dollars a service year with no caps. Probably right on that statement..I do remember something illegal about off shore package insurance charges. Didn’t Scott replace Kelley..? Correct 👍 Remember that the Central States people are a separate entity, they are not the IBT…it was their decision to penalize UPS more once they started to reduce our retirees’ benefits. The IBT only negotiated monetary increases into our pension and health and welfare plans, the benefit plans then set any increases or changes in benefits. I said this before, they can raise he part timers wages to 25 bucks an hour and chase them off the clock in 4 or 3.5 hours, 5 days a week and actually save money. Right now the Company is using these part timers as full timers, working them 30 or 40 hours a week, sometimes 6 days a week. It is the same old story…[B]They do not want to create new full time positions,[/B] and will do anything to make that happen. [/QUOTE]
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