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In the end, who wins??? And at what cost?
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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 5649957" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>Hopefully you will get a decent offer, especially with a bump for pt.</p><p>However, this idea that the bonus paid to management is an insult is just pure b s IBT vitriolic propaganda. The company asked (read demanded) management to basically run the pandemic like an extended peak. All hands on deck, 70-80 hour weeks in some operations. For the guys who managed to skate under the radar putting in 35 hour weeks normally thrown into actual work of 65 hour weeks it must have been a shock. To add insult to injury, they were paid not one thin dime more for the 65 hour week than they were for the 35 hrs one.</p><p>Now, I'm sure you're thinking boo effn who, they chose a salary position they knew the deal, and you'd be 100% correct. The company, as it has in the past, recognized the extra, lesser compensated hours, management put in and gave them a small bonus as a show of appreciation. </p><p>If hourly are offended by that and find it as you say 'beyond insulting', boo effin who, you chose and negotiated an hourly deal and were paid extra for every extra hour you worked. Now you want your cake and to eat it to. Acting insulted that the Company recognized extra hours put in for salary employees and saying you should have gotten the bonus as well is hypocrisy of the highest order. You're on a different plan, so recognize that being insulted by that bonus is wanting to have your cake and eat it too, it's IBT kool-aid. </p><p></p><p>I'll also remind you that in '97 the company offered a bonus structure based on company profits. Back then, the company was profiting closer to 5c on the dollar. Had that offer been accepted, with current numbers full time drivers would likely be getting around 12-14K every other year, so about 6k/ year. Put another way, for someone working 2k hours per year that's equivalent to 3/hr raise. The IBT flat out rejected, and always has, any compensation tied directly to the financial success of the company. </p><p></p><p>In 2008/9 during the financial crises when volume dropped and all management had their salaries frozen, I don't recall any IBT employees complaining that they got their raises unfairly, that they should have shared the burden of lean times. Nor should they have. You are on a different, defined compensation plan, one that does not allow the company to force you to share the burden of lean times, nor does it obligate the company to share in lucrative times.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 5649957, member: 14596"] Hopefully you will get a decent offer, especially with a bump for pt. However, this idea that the bonus paid to management is an insult is just pure b s IBT vitriolic propaganda. The company asked (read demanded) management to basically run the pandemic like an extended peak. All hands on deck, 70-80 hour weeks in some operations. For the guys who managed to skate under the radar putting in 35 hour weeks normally thrown into actual work of 65 hour weeks it must have been a shock. To add insult to injury, they were paid not one thin dime more for the 65 hour week than they were for the 35 hrs one. Now, I'm sure you're thinking boo effn who, they chose a salary position they knew the deal, and you'd be 100% correct. The company, as it has in the past, recognized the extra, lesser compensated hours, management put in and gave them a small bonus as a show of appreciation. If hourly are offended by that and find it as you say 'beyond insulting', boo effin who, you chose and negotiated an hourly deal and were paid extra for every extra hour you worked. Now you want your cake and to eat it to. Acting insulted that the Company recognized extra hours put in for salary employees and saying you should have gotten the bonus as well is hypocrisy of the highest order. You're on a different plan, so recognize that being insulted by that bonus is wanting to have your cake and eat it too, it's IBT kool-aid. I'll also remind you that in '97 the company offered a bonus structure based on company profits. Back then, the company was profiting closer to 5c on the dollar. Had that offer been accepted, with current numbers full time drivers would likely be getting around 12-14K every other year, so about 6k/ year. Put another way, for someone working 2k hours per year that's equivalent to 3/hr raise. The IBT flat out rejected, and always has, any compensation tied directly to the financial success of the company. In 2008/9 during the financial crises when volume dropped and all management had their salaries frozen, I don't recall any IBT employees complaining that they got their raises unfairly, that they should have shared the burden of lean times. Nor should they have. You are on a different, defined compensation plan, one that does not allow the company to force you to share the burden of lean times, nor does it obligate the company to share in lucrative times. [/QUOTE]
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