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Is telematics over supervison?
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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 737314" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>I disagree, I believe the contract states exactly what a steward or any other employee should do if treated with outrageous or disrespectful behavior, it says they should treat each other and the employer (ie, management) with respect, period. You seem to be implying that employees must treat management with respect only if they are treated that way in the first place. Further, you seem to base this in part on the fact that the contracts obligation for management to treat employees with respect comes prior to the employee's own obligation. But if you are going to argue that the one relies on the other, then I would argue that the obligation begins on management, and if management is not then given the professional behavior in return then as you say, the contract no longer spells out any obligations for him either. Down that road lies chaos.</p><p></p><p>I have spoken to employees in my work area, and instructed them in respectful terms to do things they did not want to do, and been met with, shall we say way less than respectful or professional responses. I do not believe that that in any way lifted my obligation to continue to be respectful and professional. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I agree. However, I was able to find nothing in my searches on labor law that would lead me to believe that a steward is free of all obligations of a labor contract while acting as a steward, and in fact found one item from another union's site that seems to indicate otherwise. I have asked for any such reference and have not been answered.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nothing happens that you are aware of. I have been in meetings where such things are discussed, I can assure you the discussions are uncomfortable. The level of discomfort is directly proportional to the level to which the particular case has gone. I stand by my statement that a management person who by their actions begins a process of events that ultimately brings a sanction against UPS from the NLRB would likely find their career path limited.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 737314, member: 14596"] I disagree, I believe the contract states exactly what a steward or any other employee should do if treated with outrageous or disrespectful behavior, it says they should treat each other and the employer (ie, management) with respect, period. You seem to be implying that employees must treat management with respect only if they are treated that way in the first place. Further, you seem to base this in part on the fact that the contracts obligation for management to treat employees with respect comes prior to the employee's own obligation. But if you are going to argue that the one relies on the other, then I would argue that the obligation begins on management, and if management is not then given the professional behavior in return then as you say, the contract no longer spells out any obligations for him either. Down that road lies chaos. I have spoken to employees in my work area, and instructed them in respectful terms to do things they did not want to do, and been met with, shall we say way less than respectful or professional responses. I do not believe that that in any way lifted my obligation to continue to be respectful and professional. I agree. However, I was able to find nothing in my searches on labor law that would lead me to believe that a steward is free of all obligations of a labor contract while acting as a steward, and in fact found one item from another union's site that seems to indicate otherwise. I have asked for any such reference and have not been answered. Nothing happens that you are aware of. I have been in meetings where such things are discussed, I can assure you the discussions are uncomfortable. The level of discomfort is directly proportional to the level to which the particular case has gone. I stand by my statement that a management person who by their actions begins a process of events that ultimately brings a sanction against UPS from the NLRB would likely find their career path limited. [/QUOTE]
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