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<blockquote data-quote="InsideUPS" data-source="post: 1114067" data-attributes="member: 31414"><p>All of our contracts since 1997 have had concessions in one form or another. Considering the fact that there is virtually nothing left to take from the part-time work force, UPS is now going after full time employees as well.</p><p></p><p>The most recent "update" from the IBT does not look promising (letter below). Simply look at the "key words" and statements in Mr. hall letter. Do they appear promising to you? I personally would rather read; <em>"Today <strong><u>the <span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #ff0000">Union</span></span> proposed moving all employees that are currently in the Company health insurance plan into a Union plan</u></strong></em>. IMHO, this statement from Hall appears that we, the Union are on the DEFENSIVE....on this issue rather than on the OFFENSE. </p><p></p><p>In regard to; <em><u>We have told the Company we are prepared to meet the weeks of April 15th and April 22nd, provided the Company is prepared to reach an Agreement acceptable to our members during those two weeks</u></em>; this statement attempts to demonstrate "strength" by using the phrase "We have told the Company".... but totally loses the feeling of leadership when it ends in; <em>"provided the Company is prepared to reach an Agreement......"</em> . How lame is that? OF COURSE the "Company" is going to be prepared to reach an agreement.......they want an agreement more than anything to protect their stock price. </p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">TO: UPS Package Local Unions hall</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">FROM: hall</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: #0000ff">DATE: March 28, 2013</span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong></strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><em><span style="font-size: 12px">Today we concluded another week of negotiations with UPS. <u><strong>Several</strong></u> of the open supplements made significant progress.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><em><span style="font-size: 12px">In national negotiations, <strong><u>we focused on healthcare</u></strong>. Today <strong><u>the Company proposed moving all employees that are currently in the Company health insurance plan into a Union plan</u></strong>.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><em><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff"><em><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><u>Because this issue is so important</u></strong>, <u>we are taking the next two weeks to evaluate the proposal and discuss the issue internally.</u></span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em><span style="color: #0000ff"><u>We have told the Company we are prepared to meet the weeks of April 15th and April 22nd, provided the Company is prepared to reach an Agreement acceptable to our members during those two weeks</u>.</span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em><span style="color: #0000ff"></span></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><em></em><strong><span style="font-size: 15px"><u>As posted on "MakeUPSDeliver.org" :</u></span></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="color: #008000">UPS Contract Update</span></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #008000">UPDATED March 28, 2013: Bargaining has been suspended until April 15, when it is expected to get serious. The International Union announced that harassment and Surepost issues have largely been settled,<u><strong> but UPS and the IBT are “miles apart” on economic issues</strong></u></span>.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><u>SurePost, Harassment, and 9.5 language will be as vague and unenforceable as it was in the past.</u></strong> UPS could care less about what is written in our contract about these non-economic issues...... WE ALREADY have Article 37 language on harassment. Where has that gotten us???.....ENDLESS grievances with NO results. We already have 9.5 language in our contract..... Where has that gotten us??? and finally.... we ALREADY have language against SUBCONTRACTING......Where has that gotten us???? </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><u>THE MAIN economic and benefits issues are what we need to focus on. </u></strong> </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><u><strong>In Summary</strong></u>, hall initially demonstrated "early" leadership when he stated in a letter "Not $90...not $9....not $09.....(for healthcare)" . Mysteriously however that IBT letter is now GONE from the Teamsters website at <a href="http://www.teamster.org/UPS" target="_blank">UPS 2013 Negotiations | International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)</a> . (Fortunately I have a copy of it). All I've seen since then are "creative solutions" which apparently are going to involve our healthcare plans and plenty of "smoke". Personally, I am not feeling the level of "leadership" that I felt during the 1997 negotiations which lead to a strike....... nowhere close...... The charisma, intensity, and ability to rally the public on our side is definitely missing from Hoffa and Hall compared to Ron Carey. If this contract is any example of past contracts under Hall and Hoffa.....it will be concessionary. </span> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsideUPS, post: 1114067, member: 31414"] All of our contracts since 1997 have had concessions in one form or another. Considering the fact that there is virtually nothing left to take from the part-time work force, UPS is now going after full time employees as well. The most recent "update" from the IBT does not look promising (letter below). Simply look at the "key words" and statements in Mr. hall letter. Do they appear promising to you? I personally would rather read; [I]"Today [B][U]the [SIZE=4][COLOR=#ff0000]Union[/COLOR][/SIZE] proposed moving all employees that are currently in the Company health insurance plan into a Union plan[/U][/B][/I]. IMHO, this statement from Hall appears that we, the Union are on the DEFENSIVE....on this issue rather than on the OFFENSE. In regard to; [I][U]We have told the Company we are prepared to meet the weeks of April 15th and April 22nd, provided the Company is prepared to reach an Agreement acceptable to our members during those two weeks[/U][/I]; this statement attempts to demonstrate "strength" by using the phrase "We have told the Company".... but totally loses the feeling of leadership when it ends in; [I]"provided the Company is prepared to reach an Agreement......"[/I] . How lame is that? OF COURSE the "Company" is going to be prepared to reach an agreement.......they want an agreement more than anything to protect their stock price. [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=#0000ff]TO: UPS Package Local Unions hall FROM: hall DATE: March 28, 2013[/COLOR] [/B][/SIZE] [COLOR=#0000ff][I][SIZE=3]Today we concluded another week of negotiations with UPS. [U][B]Several[/B][/U] of the open supplements made significant progress.[/SIZE][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][I][SIZE=3]In national negotiations, [B][U]we focused on healthcare[/U][/B]. Today [B][U]the Company proposed moving all employees that are currently in the Company health insurance plan into a Union plan[/U][/B]. [/SIZE][/I][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][I][SIZE=3][B][U]Because this issue is so important[/U][/B], [U]we are taking the next two weeks to evaluate the proposal and discuss the issue internally.[/U][/SIZE][/I][/COLOR] [SIZE=3][I][COLOR=#0000ff][U]We have told the Company we are prepared to meet the weeks of April 15th and April 22nd, provided the Company is prepared to reach an Agreement acceptable to our members during those two weeks[/U]. [/COLOR] [/I][B][SIZE=4][U]As posted on "MakeUPSDeliver.org" :[/U][/SIZE][/B] [SIZE=3][B][COLOR=#008000]UPS Contract Update[/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#008000]UPDATED March 28, 2013: Bargaining has been suspended until April 15, when it is expected to get serious. The International Union announced that harassment and Surepost issues have largely been settled,[U][B] but UPS and the IBT are “miles apart” on economic issues[/B][/U][/COLOR]. [B][U]SurePost, Harassment, and 9.5 language will be as vague and unenforceable as it was in the past.[/U][/B] UPS could care less about what is written in our contract about these non-economic issues...... WE ALREADY have Article 37 language on harassment. Where has that gotten us???.....ENDLESS grievances with NO results. We already have 9.5 language in our contract..... Where has that gotten us??? and finally.... we ALREADY have language against SUBCONTRACTING......Where has that gotten us???? [B][U]THE MAIN economic and benefits issues are what we need to focus on. [/U][/B] [U][B]In Summary[/B][/U], hall initially demonstrated "early" leadership when he stated in a letter "Not $90...not $9....not $09.....(for healthcare)" . Mysteriously however that IBT letter is now GONE from the Teamsters website at [URL="http://www.teamster.org/UPS"]UPS 2013 Negotiations | International Brotherhood of Teamsters (IBT)[/URL] . (Fortunately I have a copy of it). All I've seen since then are "creative solutions" which apparently are going to involve our healthcare plans and plenty of "smoke". Personally, I am not feeling the level of "leadership" that I felt during the 1997 negotiations which lead to a strike....... nowhere close...... The charisma, intensity, and ability to rally the public on our side is definitely missing from Hoffa and Hall compared to Ron Carey. If this contract is any example of past contracts under Hall and Hoffa.....it will be concessionary. [/SIZE] [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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