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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5228559" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Everything necessary to isolate a rogue nation is a good thing. Otherwise it's all meaningless rhetoric with no teeth and rogue nations would run wild. Appeasement looks like what's happening with the Iran nuclear deal. Not giving them what they want and putting harsh sanctions on them was working. Not putting sanctions on Russia or arming Ukraine when Russia was massing troops on their border was appeasement. But we have people here who seem to admire Putin and are sympathetic to the Russians. They have a long history of dominating people around them and only seem to understand strength. But people want to make a false equivalence between them slaughtering civilians now and past actions of our own government. We can't let them off the hook now because of our own historical failings. Nor should we always say we were wrong in all our past actions because some were very necessary. Absolutely nothing was necessary that required Russia to invade its neighbor. Many thousands are being slaughtered and we're so desensitized to killing by our entertainment that we wave it off as no big deal. If it was on our street, was our neighbors, our family, we would feel different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5228559, member: 24302"] Everything necessary to isolate a rogue nation is a good thing. Otherwise it's all meaningless rhetoric with no teeth and rogue nations would run wild. Appeasement looks like what's happening with the Iran nuclear deal. Not giving them what they want and putting harsh sanctions on them was working. Not putting sanctions on Russia or arming Ukraine when Russia was massing troops on their border was appeasement. But we have people here who seem to admire Putin and are sympathetic to the Russians. They have a long history of dominating people around them and only seem to understand strength. But people want to make a false equivalence between them slaughtering civilians now and past actions of our own government. We can't let them off the hook now because of our own historical failings. Nor should we always say we were wrong in all our past actions because some were very necessary. Absolutely nothing was necessary that required Russia to invade its neighbor. Many thousands are being slaughtered and we're so desensitized to killing by our entertainment that we wave it off as no big deal. If it was on our street, was our neighbors, our family, we would feel different. [/QUOTE]
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