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<blockquote data-quote="Orion inc." data-source="post: 2318948" data-attributes="member: 58808"><p>Here's one problem with your statement, ups is having issues with keeping and qualifying new drivers. Especially in big centers. Orion has three purposes. To increase stops per mile and stops per car and to cut routes. </p><p></p><p>If ups uses Orion as a bargaining tool, it will look real bad when the union shows the increases in 9/5 grievances etc in Orion centers. Combined with the shortage of trying to find qualified drivers who can make it, they run the risk of being in a bad leverage position. You can't cry poverty and want concessions when you're making billions and growing. </p><p></p><p>Also Orion has already been field tested more than three years and will be way over 5 by the time negotiations start. </p><p></p><p>Dave, you have very little experience with Orion, union issues and ups outside of your small bubble of a very small center. The reason you get proven wrong on most of your statements is because you just don't have the larger insight that most involved do. </p><p></p><p>Your statements are and have been proven wrong so much. Maybe it's time to accept that you don't know everything</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Orion inc., post: 2318948, member: 58808"] Here's one problem with your statement, ups is having issues with keeping and qualifying new drivers. Especially in big centers. Orion has three purposes. To increase stops per mile and stops per car and to cut routes. If ups uses Orion as a bargaining tool, it will look real bad when the union shows the increases in 9/5 grievances etc in Orion centers. Combined with the shortage of trying to find qualified drivers who can make it, they run the risk of being in a bad leverage position. You can't cry poverty and want concessions when you're making billions and growing. Also Orion has already been field tested more than three years and will be way over 5 by the time negotiations start. Dave, you have very little experience with Orion, union issues and ups outside of your small bubble of a very small center. The reason you get proven wrong on most of your statements is because you just don't have the larger insight that most involved do. Your statements are and have been proven wrong so much. Maybe it's time to accept that you don't know everything [/QUOTE]
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