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<blockquote data-quote="Inthegame" data-source="post: 1162630" data-attributes="member: 37112"><p>At least you are thoughtful...</p><p>1)"current" retirees include many who've left since 2007-8 when UPS demanded increases in retiree rates and hall said NO. So because Hall stopped those increases then and saved retirees thousands of dollars UPS has had to absord a continuing disproportionate share of H&W costs. And now when those costs are marginally shifted (much lower than under the now unavailable UPS plan) Hall gets dumped on. Had he allowed modest increases then, and modest increases now, members would be sending him flowers even though they would have had more total out of pocket.</p><p>2) 4 years suck. The increases in wage rates along the way mitigate the losses somewhat. After months of negotiation, 2 days before this TA was accepted UPS still had two tier $25 max on ALL future FT driving with a 72 month progression on the table. Nobody on the Nat Committee liked this but is it a strike issue? Probably not. </p><p>3)Wages are in the National. That's a done deal. Should've been higher, you're right, but there's still a long line of applicants willing to work at UPS for those starting wages.</p><p></p><p>The CEO's pay could be split among all employees and you'd get a cup of coffee with the money. It's a non-factor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Inthegame, post: 1162630, member: 37112"] At least you are thoughtful... 1)"current" retirees include many who've left since 2007-8 when UPS demanded increases in retiree rates and hall said NO. So because Hall stopped those increases then and saved retirees thousands of dollars UPS has had to absord a continuing disproportionate share of H&W costs. And now when those costs are marginally shifted (much lower than under the now unavailable UPS plan) Hall gets dumped on. Had he allowed modest increases then, and modest increases now, members would be sending him flowers even though they would have had more total out of pocket. 2) 4 years suck. The increases in wage rates along the way mitigate the losses somewhat. After months of negotiation, 2 days before this TA was accepted UPS still had two tier $25 max on ALL future FT driving with a 72 month progression on the table. Nobody on the Nat Committee liked this but is it a strike issue? Probably not. 3)Wages are in the National. That's a done deal. Should've been higher, you're right, but there's still a long line of applicants willing to work at UPS for those starting wages. The CEO's pay could be split among all employees and you'd get a cup of coffee with the money. It's a non-factor. [/QUOTE]
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