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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1163035" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>Benben,</p><p>You're in way over your head. I've made it clear I was referring to <strong>single-employer </strong>wages & compensation, yet <u>you keep linking me to sources comparing <strong>HOUSEHOLD </strong>income</u>. Household income is comprised of multiple income streams -- your wife, a second job, a side business, interest, investments, etc. You say this has "absolutely no bearing in this argument," which leads to me to think you have no idea what I'm talking about, despite your animation.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, your understanding of economics is completely flawed. If the CPI index (what most people refer to as "inflation") rose 3%, to suggest that somebody earning $20,000/year and somebody earning $75,000/year would each need to obtain a 3% raise to maintain their spending power (which is the concept behind "inflationary raise") is completely false.</p><p></p><p>Thirdly, I voted NO on this contract, but I believe the economic & health care proposals were more than fair. The goal of IBT should be to earn its membership their share of the profits. UPS has many other employee groups -- management, non-union, logistics & SCS, Freight, international operations, etc. just to name a few. UPS Freight just voted down their contract because they believe they're entitled to the same contract as package ... even though they don't contribute the same contribution margin, profits or infrastructure that the package division does. My concern with this contract is the Teamster's inability to change the Article 7 language.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1163035, member: 43436"] Benben, You're in way over your head. I've made it clear I was referring to [B]single-employer [/B]wages & compensation, yet [U]you keep linking me to sources comparing [B]HOUSEHOLD [/B]income[/U]. Household income is comprised of multiple income streams -- your wife, a second job, a side business, interest, investments, etc. You say this has "absolutely no bearing in this argument," which leads to me to think you have no idea what I'm talking about, despite your animation. Secondly, your understanding of economics is completely flawed. If the CPI index (what most people refer to as "inflation") rose 3%, to suggest that somebody earning $20,000/year and somebody earning $75,000/year would each need to obtain a 3% raise to maintain their spending power (which is the concept behind "inflationary raise") is completely false. Thirdly, I voted NO on this contract, but I believe the economic & health care proposals were more than fair. The goal of IBT should be to earn its membership their share of the profits. UPS has many other employee groups -- management, non-union, logistics & SCS, Freight, international operations, etc. just to name a few. UPS Freight just voted down their contract because they believe they're entitled to the same contract as package ... even though they don't contribute the same contribution margin, profits or infrastructure that the package division does. My concern with this contract is the Teamster's inability to change the Article 7 language. [/QUOTE]
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