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<blockquote data-quote="Benben" data-source="post: 1163818" data-attributes="member: 25133"><p>Excellent and TY for posting. From reading your post you have insight into the bussiness. Please do not take this as an attack because it is far from that but I have questions that nobody near me can answer and you are my best shot at understanding whats going on.</p><p></p><p>In my center the average paid day is north of 10 hours. Thats on average of 2 hours every day per driver paid OT at $48.5 an hour. We have trucks sitting in the lot every day. Adding routes I do not think would require more more trucks and no way more buildings would it? We did it 5 years ago. </p><p></p><p><strong>5 out of every 6 new drivers are inside hires and that 6th is usually a pt sup. So adding new drivers should not increase pension or HW costs as the company is already paying these costs for the additional new drivers that are added. With a 60% quite rate of new PT hires over, 1/2 the replacements hired for inside work would not incure those costs.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong>Furthermore, bonus is only paid after 8 hours. Meaning if a driver takes out an 8 hour dispatch and gets done in 7.5 you have paid them nothing extra. And drivers with only 8 hours of work have the energy to crush routes day in and day out....more on that later. </p><p></p><p>The same amount of pavement must be driven to deliver the packages with the exception of to and from buildings to get into and out of delivery area. I have been in trucks with over 1 million miles and the average truck in my center is (a total guess on my part here) is at about 1/4 million miles. So the wear and tear on trucks can't be that severe can it? I mean we have trucks from the 80's still out there and the cost of gas is just the average of 10 or so miles to and from the building in my center. </p><p></p><p>Production drops after 9 hours worked and if anyone tells you differently they are lying. I know most drivers save the quicker residentials for after pick-ups, so on paper it might seam their stops per hour increases but I promise you we all walk much slower after 8 hours. The same driver doing 18 stops per hour at the 9th hour in a residential area would have been belting out 21 per hour if they had done that same area earlier in the day. Driver fatigue and the cost in production that this causes when drivers work 10 and 11 hours every day for months and months and now years on end is something I do not think anyone has figured out. I do not even know how to measure nor test how much this effects production. </p><p></p><p>Customer satisfation is something that UPS has become totally and completely ignorant of. This one factor IMO costs us more bussiness to FedEx then rates do (again, just my opinion here based on what my customers say about their fedex drivers.) I can not even begin to count the number of times in 1 week I have to appologize to a customer for; 1. delivering to a buss at 4:50pm and more importantly 2. their box being mangled and looks it has been drop kicked 20 times due to the fact that my truck is bricked out every day. My God, my 2-wheeler rode shotgun untill after 11 am Friday because there wasn't anywhere to put it in the back without crushing packages.</p><p></p><p>With all these factors how is it better bussiness not putting out 1 more truck per 8 or nine? I am just trying to understand the bean counting going on so please, please do not take this post as adversarial as it that was not it's intent. I truely look forward to your response.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benben, post: 1163818, member: 25133"] Excellent and TY for posting. From reading your post you have insight into the bussiness. Please do not take this as an attack because it is far from that but I have questions that nobody near me can answer and you are my best shot at understanding whats going on. In my center the average paid day is north of 10 hours. Thats on average of 2 hours every day per driver paid OT at $48.5 an hour. We have trucks sitting in the lot every day. Adding routes I do not think would require more more trucks and no way more buildings would it? We did it 5 years ago. [B]5 out of every 6 new drivers are inside hires and that 6th is usually a pt sup. So adding new drivers should not increase pension or HW costs as the company is already paying these costs for the additional new drivers that are added. With a 60% quite rate of new PT hires over, 1/2 the replacements hired for inside work would not incure those costs. [/B]Furthermore, bonus is only paid after 8 hours. Meaning if a driver takes out an 8 hour dispatch and gets done in 7.5 you have paid them nothing extra. And drivers with only 8 hours of work have the energy to crush routes day in and day out....more on that later. The same amount of pavement must be driven to deliver the packages with the exception of to and from buildings to get into and out of delivery area. I have been in trucks with over 1 million miles and the average truck in my center is (a total guess on my part here) is at about 1/4 million miles. So the wear and tear on trucks can't be that severe can it? I mean we have trucks from the 80's still out there and the cost of gas is just the average of 10 or so miles to and from the building in my center. Production drops after 9 hours worked and if anyone tells you differently they are lying. I know most drivers save the quicker residentials for after pick-ups, so on paper it might seam their stops per hour increases but I promise you we all walk much slower after 8 hours. The same driver doing 18 stops per hour at the 9th hour in a residential area would have been belting out 21 per hour if they had done that same area earlier in the day. Driver fatigue and the cost in production that this causes when drivers work 10 and 11 hours every day for months and months and now years on end is something I do not think anyone has figured out. I do not even know how to measure nor test how much this effects production. Customer satisfation is something that UPS has become totally and completely ignorant of. This one factor IMO costs us more bussiness to FedEx then rates do (again, just my opinion here based on what my customers say about their fedex drivers.) I can not even begin to count the number of times in 1 week I have to appologize to a customer for; 1. delivering to a buss at 4:50pm and more importantly 2. their box being mangled and looks it has been drop kicked 20 times due to the fact that my truck is bricked out every day. My God, my 2-wheeler rode shotgun untill after 11 am Friday because there wasn't anywhere to put it in the back without crushing packages. With all these factors how is it better bussiness not putting out 1 more truck per 8 or nine? I am just trying to understand the bean counting going on so please, please do not take this post as adversarial as it that was not it's intent. I truely look forward to your response. [/QUOTE]
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