letter carriers master key

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by bigmistake, Aug 27, 2011.

  1. bigmistake

    bigmistake Member

    I had a delivery in an apartment building on a major street yesterday. This was my third attempt. Pulling up to the building, I see the infonotices from the past 2 days. there is intercomm or call box to get a hold of the tenants inside. As I'm filling out the 3rd infonotice, advising the recipient the package is being returned a letter carrier walks up on me, opens a lock box discreetly tucked in the wall, inside is a key to the main door. I followed him in and made the delivery. One of these would make my job so much easier, I have about 10 send agains a day because of this. Does anybody have one of these keys?
     
  2. rod

    rod retired and happy

    I always just hit about ten buzzers. Someone would always open the door. If questioned I would just say I rang the wrong apt. Worked almost every time.
     
  3. bumped

    bumped Well-Known Member

    On my old route I had keys to all of the apartment buildings. On my new route I don't even like releasing shipper release packages in locked apartment complexes.
     
  4. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    The person before you that had the route had the key I'd wager.
     
  5. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    UPS don't like sendagains as they have us message in if you have over 5 sendagains in a day. Also dring apartments with gates for vehicles alone is apparently good enough nowadays.
     
  6. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    I have an old folks apartment village/building on my area and it is a secure building with key passes. I have offered to the management group that I would sign for a key if they would give me one but they won't budge. Usually I can catch some of the elders going in and out of the building and they wil let me in though they always tell me how much trouble they could get in for doing so.
     
  7. menotyou

    menotyou bella amicizia

    I just did what Rod did. Sometimes I felt like Lt Uhura! :winks:
     
  8. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Keep those ten apt send agains that are on your route.

    If you suddenly don't have them anymore, they will give you 15 more stops somewhere else.
     
  9. brownelf

    brownelf Active Member

    have a couple of similar buildings on my route and was having the same issues, I can get into the first door but can't get thru the 2nd into the building. Each building has the usual/almost daily QVC packages going to the same people day after day. Was having lots of issues with send agains and people whining about not hearing the buzzer when I'm attempting to deliver ect. Solved the problem by giving many of the regular stops extra delivery notices to sign and leave in vestibule. Now if they're not home or slow to answer I grab a presigned del notice and leave pkg, The signed notice covers my butt in the case of non recpt claims, and everyone gets their pkgs on the 1st attempt.
     
  10. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    UPS doesn't like there drivers to have keys in some rare occasion local management gives it the ok and it's usually to a business that closes early. The problem is liability if a UPS driver had a key and those plases started to have a lot of things missing. Who do you think is going to get blamed ??? The post office is a federal agency that has all sorts of rules and laws that protect them when things happen UPS doesn't have that luxury.
     
  11. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    The senior apt building on my route had a activity/lunchroom around the side. I`d pull around and bring all the packages in and either get them to the recipient or to their friend who would take it for them, Plus the grandmas always sent me away with a snack too.
     
  12. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I have three buildings on my route that have entry codes. I typed these up and taped them to my bulkhead door. One is commercial and the other two residential (apt complexes). We sign for the commercial and DR the residential as it has secure entry.

    I had a pickup account that gave me a key as they closed before I would get there. They have since moved and grown to the point where we park a trailer at their new location.

    As far as the mailman, don't think they are all above reproach. I deliver to our local Social Security office, which has an entry code which they will not give me. There are rental cops which used to sign for their packages but this all changed when the mailman decided to sign for their packages one day. We now have to be escorted to their office, turn our backs as they enter the code, escorted in for the delivery and then back out.

    At this point I would almost rather not have the potential liability associated with being given the keys to a business.
     
  13. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    I have been offered keys, but I refuse to accept them for that very reason. Plus,with the willy-nilly manner in which our routes are being cut and chopped up, its impossible to know from day to day which car will be delivering to a given address and making sure a key gets handed off to the appropriate driver is virtually impossible.

    I do have several dozen access codes to gates in the rural area of my route that I have accquired over the last 17 years. I keep them in my cell phone, and in a file on my computer, as well as printed out on a sheet of paper. In many cases this is a safety issue because if I cant get the gate to open I have to back out of the driveway onto a busy road.
     
  14. bumped

    bumped Well-Known Member

    Management doesn't say a word about send agains. They know if in my area we left packages even in locked entrances they would be ripped open and contents taken within an hour.
     
  15. Mike57

    Mike57 Member

    I never had any keys,But while I was at DHL I knew dozens of door codes!
     
  16. JonFrum

    JonFrum Member

    If there was ever a murder, rape, or armed robbery in a building to which a UPS driver had a key, the criminal would probably get away with it. His Defense Attorney would tell the jury that the UPS Guy had a key, and who knows how many drivers and others have had access to just that one key. The jury will then find "reasonable doubt" and find the guilty guy "Not Guilty."

    A driver could also be pressured to give or lend the key to a criminal. Check out this saga involving UPS Chema, Whitey Bulger's gang, stolen guns and computers. . . .
    http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Charl...he+International+Brotherhood+Of...-a088126759
     
  17. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    I dont want a key its too much Liability for ME.
    I dont even like an access code.
     
  18. BrownArmy

    BrownArmy Well-Known Member

    I have access codes to multiple apartment buildings and codes to open a multitude of lock-boxes that contain either keys or key-fobs that will open doors to many other apartment buildings, and I'm not afraid to use them.
     
  19. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    Good for you.
     
  20. HomeDelivery

    HomeDelivery Well-Known Member

    i guessed at a door code to an apt building & got in... the lil old lady didn't have a phone linked to the apartment call button & was glad that i got in to deliver her meds on the 1st attempt

    at other apts, i'll ring a few buttons or the office button and say "it's FedEx trying to deliver to apt ###, can you please let me in?" & that usually works well too

    sometimes the fellow brown guy or USPS guy will have one of those electronic key passes and will allow me to follow him in --- thanks fellow delivery peeps!