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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1181642" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p><strong>Re: Letter from Ken H to me. I will provide copy to anyone that wants one.</strong></p><p></p><p>I too received the letter from K.Hall today in the mail. After reading it, it was clear, he is telling us to go pound sand. I would have posted the letter, but I dont know if that violates any TOS rules..( maybe the mods can clarify that for me) so I will touch on a couple of points.</p><p></p><p>First of all, take a look at paragraph 5. Read it carefully, it applies to the WEST/Southwest, so if you are a member of the SW, read this carefully.</p><p></p><p>"<em><strong>in addition, as part of the national agreement that was approved, the western area locals and local 177 were given the opportunity to come up with their own health insurance plan for their members by November 1, 2013. <span style="color: #ff0000">THE PLAN MUST OFFER BENEFITS THAT ARE EQUAL TO WHAT TEAMCARE ARE OFFERING FOR THE SAME CONTRIBUTION RATE THAT THE COMPANY IS PAYING TEAMCARE.</span> Local leaders in the west and local 177 are currently working to come up with such a plan, but nothing has been finalized yet, therefore, we are not in a position to share any details with the members</strong></em>."</p><p></p><p>Despite claims from LagunaBrown that somehow, the "carve out" was going to be "great" for the members of the west, read what it says in RED once again, and ask yourself what does it mean?</p><p></p><p>In order to put this into a financial perspective that "we" can all understand, I need to ask a favor of ANYONE who is currently in the C6 teamcare plan.</p><p></p><p>If you will look at your W2 for this years taxes, tell me what number is in BOX 12a DD.</p><p></p><p>The total in my box 12aDD is $18,994.92</p><p></p><p>This number represents the amount of money that is allocated by UPS for my current health care package yearly. To understand the comparison between the two plans, we need to establish what the allocation is for someone in the central states plan.</p><p></p><p>Any help on this would be appreciated to further this discussion. Once we establish the difference between the contribution rates, we in the west will be able to understand just how far our coverage is being reduced. I am sure we will see a significant difference in this allocation rate.</p><p></p><p>Now, in RED, it states ( in K Halls own words) that the "carve out" will have to MATCH the current C6 plan benefit level for the same money that UPS contributes to the teamcare fund per capita. In other words, the WEST/Southwest cannot spend MORE than the C6 recieves from UPS for the C6 plan.</p><p></p><p>Now, if UPS is contributing $18,994.92 towards my current insurance, and begining in January 1, 2014, the teamsters will only be able to get me a plan for the contribution rate of the C6, how can anyone expect to get better or equal coverage for less money?</p><p></p><p>This is the one thing I cant get lagunaBrown to understand.</p><p></p><p>It isnt about getting a better plan, at this point, its only about who is going to administer the C6 benefit levels for us in the West.</p><p></p><p>That is why Andy said at the contract meeting that "in effect, you are voting for the C6 plan".</p><p></p><p>I hope that someone that is in the C6 currently post the amount in box 12a from their W2 to further this conversation.</p><p></p><p>peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1181642, member: 17969"] [b]Re: Letter from Ken H to me. I will provide copy to anyone that wants one.[/b] I too received the letter from K.Hall today in the mail. After reading it, it was clear, he is telling us to go pound sand. I would have posted the letter, but I dont know if that violates any TOS rules..( maybe the mods can clarify that for me) so I will touch on a couple of points. First of all, take a look at paragraph 5. Read it carefully, it applies to the WEST/Southwest, so if you are a member of the SW, read this carefully. "[I][B]in addition, as part of the national agreement that was approved, the western area locals and local 177 were given the opportunity to come up with their own health insurance plan for their members by November 1, 2013. [COLOR=#ff0000]THE PLAN MUST OFFER BENEFITS THAT ARE EQUAL TO WHAT TEAMCARE ARE OFFERING FOR THE SAME CONTRIBUTION RATE THAT THE COMPANY IS PAYING TEAMCARE.[/COLOR] Local leaders in the west and local 177 are currently working to come up with such a plan, but nothing has been finalized yet, therefore, we are not in a position to share any details with the members[/B][/I]." Despite claims from LagunaBrown that somehow, the "carve out" was going to be "great" for the members of the west, read what it says in RED once again, and ask yourself what does it mean? In order to put this into a financial perspective that "we" can all understand, I need to ask a favor of ANYONE who is currently in the C6 teamcare plan. If you will look at your W2 for this years taxes, tell me what number is in BOX 12a DD. The total in my box 12aDD is $18,994.92 This number represents the amount of money that is allocated by UPS for my current health care package yearly. To understand the comparison between the two plans, we need to establish what the allocation is for someone in the central states plan. Any help on this would be appreciated to further this discussion. Once we establish the difference between the contribution rates, we in the west will be able to understand just how far our coverage is being reduced. I am sure we will see a significant difference in this allocation rate. Now, in RED, it states ( in K Halls own words) that the "carve out" will have to MATCH the current C6 plan benefit level for the same money that UPS contributes to the teamcare fund per capita. In other words, the WEST/Southwest cannot spend MORE than the C6 recieves from UPS for the C6 plan. Now, if UPS is contributing $18,994.92 towards my current insurance, and begining in January 1, 2014, the teamsters will only be able to get me a plan for the contribution rate of the C6, how can anyone expect to get better or equal coverage for less money? This is the one thing I cant get lagunaBrown to understand. It isnt about getting a better plan, at this point, its only about who is going to administer the C6 benefit levels for us in the West. That is why Andy said at the contract meeting that "in effect, you are voting for the C6 plan". I hope that someone that is in the C6 currently post the amount in box 12a from their W2 to further this conversation. peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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