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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 935354" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Your earlier claim was that American colleges didn't teach ID and then you used the film Expelled to make the point further. One of the underlying claims within the film is some type of conspiracy against ID because of it's obvious religious connection. Said conspiracy was not direct to Jesus, I just used the absurd to focus on an absurd claim. You say it's not taught and then MFE also claims it's not taught because of the separation doctrine and thus my point of the 2 of you sharing the same false claim with different rationals to justify your positions. I just find both of your claims absurd!</p><p></p><p>Millions and millions if not billions of people over time also thought the sun revolved around the earth. They thought the known universe was not much bigger than our solar system, they thought god caused and then the devil caused disease and then a majority voted in Obama after a majority voted in Bush. The majority in America once believed that men and women of African ancestery were less than human and could be bought and sold like so many farm animals and were even able to justify their beliefs with the bible itself. Majority of parents may at one point or another tell their kids of a fake fat man in a red suit who brings gifts and flies in a sleigh. Some would argue it was a majority that demanded Jesus be crucified!</p><p></p><p>Just because majorities believe something doesn't make it not a case of mass delusion!</p><p></p><p>BTW: You do realize that the majority of people on the planet actually believe in a god different from yours so if this is all about majority rule, once again you are wrong. Because a mass of people believe something, it's just a very bad criteria to use to justify one's position.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 935354, member: 2189"] Your earlier claim was that American colleges didn't teach ID and then you used the film Expelled to make the point further. One of the underlying claims within the film is some type of conspiracy against ID because of it's obvious religious connection. Said conspiracy was not direct to Jesus, I just used the absurd to focus on an absurd claim. You say it's not taught and then MFE also claims it's not taught because of the separation doctrine and thus my point of the 2 of you sharing the same false claim with different rationals to justify your positions. I just find both of your claims absurd! Millions and millions if not billions of people over time also thought the sun revolved around the earth. They thought the known universe was not much bigger than our solar system, they thought god caused and then the devil caused disease and then a majority voted in Obama after a majority voted in Bush. The majority in America once believed that men and women of African ancestery were less than human and could be bought and sold like so many farm animals and were even able to justify their beliefs with the bible itself. Majority of parents may at one point or another tell their kids of a fake fat man in a red suit who brings gifts and flies in a sleigh. Some would argue it was a majority that demanded Jesus be crucified! Just because majorities believe something doesn't make it not a case of mass delusion! BTW: You do realize that the majority of people on the planet actually believe in a god different from yours so if this is all about majority rule, once again you are wrong. Because a mass of people believe something, it's just a very bad criteria to use to justify one's position. [/QUOTE]
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