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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 938045" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>As to the "Jesus" thing, I stated in an earlier post I was using that point as an absurd to address what I considered an absurd. But since you keep bringing it up, the majority of folk who make Intelligent Design an issue tend to be from a christian perspective. In regards to Ben Stein's movie, I'm certain when he considered the money making angle to his film, those of the christian faith had to be a big economic factor. I mean, there's a few million jews in America but the economic gain from even a majority of them coming to see the film still limits the bank account but pull in say 10% of all the folks who call themselves christian and now you're talking real money.</p><p></p><p>As to the question of you pushing god, when yeah I do think you are. For one, the major premise of Intelligent Design is that a higher power, god if you will created time, space, matter and thus all life as we know it. I see one of the major basis for what became intelligent design in being Thomas Aquinas who proposed that natural things act to achieve the best results and this shows intelligence and that intelligence must be god. William Paley in the early 1800's came up with the watchmaker analogy and thus the foundation for the god concept in the creative forces were set in stone. Where the god concept is required is that if the creation story never happened, no Adam and Eve, no original sin, no fall, there is no salvation needed for sin. No sacrifice is or was never needed and you could argue, game over. That still may not be true but I do understand the dilemma the fundamental christian faith would be in if the Genesis creation turns to myth.</p><p></p><p>As to the Cambrian article, you posed the earlier question and I found the article. I also in that post stipulated that even Darwin was concerned about his evolution idea in light of the Cambrian explosion and as time goes by this could shed light either way and bares watching. Seems to me however like bbsam commented after your post of confronting the college professor, I think you're just being a dick again!</p><p></p><p>Dr. Kenneth Miller, biologist and Roman Catholic on Intelligent Design and Evolution</p><p></p><p>[media=youtube]-D-jXiG3Ci0[/media]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 938045, member: 2189"] As to the "Jesus" thing, I stated in an earlier post I was using that point as an absurd to address what I considered an absurd. But since you keep bringing it up, the majority of folk who make Intelligent Design an issue tend to be from a christian perspective. In regards to Ben Stein's movie, I'm certain when he considered the money making angle to his film, those of the christian faith had to be a big economic factor. I mean, there's a few million jews in America but the economic gain from even a majority of them coming to see the film still limits the bank account but pull in say 10% of all the folks who call themselves christian and now you're talking real money. As to the question of you pushing god, when yeah I do think you are. For one, the major premise of Intelligent Design is that a higher power, god if you will created time, space, matter and thus all life as we know it. I see one of the major basis for what became intelligent design in being Thomas Aquinas who proposed that natural things act to achieve the best results and this shows intelligence and that intelligence must be god. William Paley in the early 1800's came up with the watchmaker analogy and thus the foundation for the god concept in the creative forces were set in stone. Where the god concept is required is that if the creation story never happened, no Adam and Eve, no original sin, no fall, there is no salvation needed for sin. No sacrifice is or was never needed and you could argue, game over. That still may not be true but I do understand the dilemma the fundamental christian faith would be in if the Genesis creation turns to myth. As to the Cambrian article, you posed the earlier question and I found the article. I also in that post stipulated that even Darwin was concerned about his evolution idea in light of the Cambrian explosion and as time goes by this could shed light either way and bares watching. Seems to me however like bbsam commented after your post of confronting the college professor, I think you're just being a dick again! Dr. Kenneth Miller, biologist and Roman Catholic on Intelligent Design and Evolution [media=youtube]-D-jXiG3Ci0[/media] [/QUOTE]
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