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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 938470" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Good points. As I've thought about evolution and ID, obviously I think evolution has a place in teaching but then so does ID or better yet scrap the term ID and return back to the core ideal and it's proper name that being creationism. The problem with both evolution and creationism being forced to compete in the same realm is that their basis of being are different. Science will say it's basis is that of fact and the search for truth and it's not without error but then over time it seeks to change to adjust as it finds new truths revealed by new evidence. Science in it's imperfect ways almost seeks to challenge itself as it marches through time.</p><p></p><p>Religious foundation however is premised on another noble foundation and that is faith. In itself it teaches that ideal and although it can have it's apocalyptic moments which can be seen in a negative, religion can also be capable of a greater message of hope and the best of what man can be. The way I see it, to take science and force it into the realm of pure faith harms science to a point to make it worthless but then to force religion into the world of proving absolutes strips it of it's best quality. </p><p></p><p>The discipline of philosophy was long ago stripped out of public education and a greater part of our humanity was stripped out with it. Science might be capable of answering questions of which knowledge might be vastly more harmful than we realize (our understanding of the power of the atom comes to mind)but it's the discipline of philosophy, the questions asked in religious faith in it's separate status that makes it the most effective IMO. I'd argue to return philosophic teaching to primary and secondary public schooling and in that proper setting, those ideals based on faith could and in fact should get a fair hearing by all and I think we'd all be the better for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 938470, member: 2189"] Good points. As I've thought about evolution and ID, obviously I think evolution has a place in teaching but then so does ID or better yet scrap the term ID and return back to the core ideal and it's proper name that being creationism. The problem with both evolution and creationism being forced to compete in the same realm is that their basis of being are different. Science will say it's basis is that of fact and the search for truth and it's not without error but then over time it seeks to change to adjust as it finds new truths revealed by new evidence. Science in it's imperfect ways almost seeks to challenge itself as it marches through time. Religious foundation however is premised on another noble foundation and that is faith. In itself it teaches that ideal and although it can have it's apocalyptic moments which can be seen in a negative, religion can also be capable of a greater message of hope and the best of what man can be. The way I see it, to take science and force it into the realm of pure faith harms science to a point to make it worthless but then to force religion into the world of proving absolutes strips it of it's best quality. The discipline of philosophy was long ago stripped out of public education and a greater part of our humanity was stripped out with it. Science might be capable of answering questions of which knowledge might be vastly more harmful than we realize (our understanding of the power of the atom comes to mind)but it's the discipline of philosophy, the questions asked in religious faith in it's separate status that makes it the most effective IMO. I'd argue to return philosophic teaching to primary and secondary public schooling and in that proper setting, those ideals based on faith could and in fact should get a fair hearing by all and I think we'd all be the better for it. [/QUOTE]
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