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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 711209" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Unionman in some ways I agree with what you just said "BUT" politicians, all politicians, are driven by image and especially public image. The big question if Obama is genuine or not mostly hinges down to where one's politics lay. Here's what I look at and you can take it or leave it. Go back to 2000' and look at what Bush said leading up to the election. Fastforward 2008' and do the very same thing with Obama. Now compare both men to what they said before they ever took the office to what they did after taking office. What both men did verses what they said stand in contrast. Granted Bush has 8 years to Obama's 1 year plus but the same results in my opinion doth apply. These guys are all political animals who are nothing more than puppets on string controlled by the very machine that creates them. When you move beyond the politics and their required alliegences, the actions of Bush and Obama really differ very little. The silliness of it all is that repubs are screaming about a man who in truth differ's very little from Bush whom they bowed to like some God and yet democrats now dyingly defend at all angles a man who is literally following Bush policies, policies 2 years ago were the equal of the end of all mankind for all time. </p><p> </p><p>As long as you continue to play their game and follow them blindly, do you really expect anything to get any better no matter who is in office? I find it interesting that in recent days Wikileaks releases a video from Iraq 2007' and had this video hit the public in 2007' the democrat so-called liberal mouthpieces would be screaming at the top of their lungs but it's released in a new era and the silence from the so-called democrat/liberal/progressive construct in this country is most telling. If you want to see the video, google "Collateral Murder" but I'll warn you, it's troubling to watch no matter where you stand on the issue of Iraq.</p><p> </p><p>As to the State of Mass. and Healthcare or Obamacare if you will, you might check out the article last Wednesday from the Christian Science Monitor entitled, <a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0331/Who-is-the-father-of-healthcare-reform-Obama-or-Mitt-Romney" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">"Who is the Father of Healthcare Reform: Romney or Obama?"</span></a> which just proves my point that there is no difference between the 2 established and monopolized political parties. I've said this from the time I came here in 2002' til now much to the hatred and seething rage of varying political party idiots on both sides and each day the evidence to support my claims grow ever larger. Therefore I won't stop saying it because it's a matter of fact which we as a nation continue to ignore and deny hoping the next shining star will make it all better.</p><p> </p><p>Politics is as fake as championship wrestling and I hold wrestling in higher esteem because at least they admit up front the fakery. If you ever have the time, google video the documentary entitled "The Corporation" and watch it if you haven't already. The middle part of that documentary goes into advertising and creating mental images and if that alone doesn't raise serious questions about our politicians, their campaigns and the public image, then I guess not much will at this point.</p><p> </p><p>BTW: I think the announcement by Obama to do some off shore drilling was nothing more than a pure PR move (and a smart one from that POV) to try and drive down some of the healthcare fallout by throwing a bone to the drill here/drill now crowd. It won't work for all but it could qwell some of the more independent minded who thend to swing back and forth between parties on election day. It's a move of image need not principle need IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 711209, member: 2189"] Unionman in some ways I agree with what you just said "BUT" politicians, all politicians, are driven by image and especially public image. The big question if Obama is genuine or not mostly hinges down to where one's politics lay. Here's what I look at and you can take it or leave it. Go back to 2000' and look at what Bush said leading up to the election. Fastforward 2008' and do the very same thing with Obama. Now compare both men to what they said before they ever took the office to what they did after taking office. What both men did verses what they said stand in contrast. Granted Bush has 8 years to Obama's 1 year plus but the same results in my opinion doth apply. These guys are all political animals who are nothing more than puppets on string controlled by the very machine that creates them. When you move beyond the politics and their required alliegences, the actions of Bush and Obama really differ very little. The silliness of it all is that repubs are screaming about a man who in truth differ's very little from Bush whom they bowed to like some God and yet democrats now dyingly defend at all angles a man who is literally following Bush policies, policies 2 years ago were the equal of the end of all mankind for all time. As long as you continue to play their game and follow them blindly, do you really expect anything to get any better no matter who is in office? I find it interesting that in recent days Wikileaks releases a video from Iraq 2007' and had this video hit the public in 2007' the democrat so-called liberal mouthpieces would be screaming at the top of their lungs but it's released in a new era and the silence from the so-called democrat/liberal/progressive construct in this country is most telling. If you want to see the video, google "Collateral Murder" but I'll warn you, it's troubling to watch no matter where you stand on the issue of Iraq. As to the State of Mass. and Healthcare or Obamacare if you will, you might check out the article last Wednesday from the Christian Science Monitor entitled, [URL="http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0331/Who-is-the-father-of-healthcare-reform-Obama-or-Mitt-Romney"][COLOR=red]"Who is the Father of Healthcare Reform: Romney or Obama?"[/COLOR][/URL] which just proves my point that there is no difference between the 2 established and monopolized political parties. I've said this from the time I came here in 2002' til now much to the hatred and seething rage of varying political party idiots on both sides and each day the evidence to support my claims grow ever larger. Therefore I won't stop saying it because it's a matter of fact which we as a nation continue to ignore and deny hoping the next shining star will make it all better. Politics is as fake as championship wrestling and I hold wrestling in higher esteem because at least they admit up front the fakery. If you ever have the time, google video the documentary entitled "The Corporation" and watch it if you haven't already. The middle part of that documentary goes into advertising and creating mental images and if that alone doesn't raise serious questions about our politicians, their campaigns and the public image, then I guess not much will at this point. BTW: I think the announcement by Obama to do some off shore drilling was nothing more than a pure PR move (and a smart one from that POV) to try and drive down some of the healthcare fallout by throwing a bone to the drill here/drill now crowd. It won't work for all but it could qwell some of the more independent minded who thend to swing back and forth between parties on election day. It's a move of image need not principle need IMO. [/QUOTE]
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