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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 446060" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Jones, let us have a reasonable debate on this issue. I am going to take issue with a few of your points one by one and offer you a counter.</p><p> </p><p><strong>1)"I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of the bonus system"</strong></p><p> </p><p>What bonus system? Where does this exist? Where can I find the section that outlines the bonus system in our contract or company handbook? How can there be PROS and CONS to something that does'nt really exist?</p><p> </p><p><strong>2)"But if the company is paying other drivers bonus to do that work, then should pay him the same. It's about fair treatment."</strong></p><p> </p><p>Fair treatment? Is it fair for this guy to break route by 2 hours and get paid by the company and on the same day another guys tanks 3 hours and cant be fired? As a steward, would you promote this guys termination for not making production as you would the other getting paid for earning his?</p><p> </p><p>Think your being fair?</p><p> </p><p><strong>3)"As a shop steward, I don't let my dislike for an overall policy get in the way of making sure that an individual member is treated fairly under that policy."</strong></p><p> </p><p>You keep mentioning "policy". Can you demonstrate what the criteria for this policy is? Where is this criteria located? What are the standards for each element of this criteria?</p><p> </p><p>Lets deal with facts, not emotion. I have been around a long time, seen many things, been paid "bonus" at a point years ago before UPS stopped paying it, so I know plenty about "bonus".</p><p> </p><p>You talk about fairness, but are you really? Would you chastize a driver for being in the hole? If you are going to bat for those breaking standard, should'nt you (in all fairness) go after those not breaking standard?</p><p> </p><p>Get the idea?</p><p> </p><p>This is why the UNION does'nt recognize bonus nor does it negotiate it in our contracts. Bonus is merely something the company provides in limited areas.</p><p> </p><p>There are so many perimeters to consider, it would ultimately "hurt" our drivers rather than helping them. The UNION would NOT have any control over any elements of production and the company could set rediculous standards that would lead to the elimination of drivers for production violations.</p><p> </p><p>Bigger picture folks.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/dead.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":dead:" title="Dead :dead:" data-shortname=":dead:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 446060, member: 17969"] Jones, let us have a reasonable debate on this issue. I am going to take issue with a few of your points one by one and offer you a counter. [B]1)"I'm not going to argue the pros and cons of the bonus system"[/B] What bonus system? Where does this exist? Where can I find the section that outlines the bonus system in our contract or company handbook? How can there be PROS and CONS to something that does'nt really exist? [B]2)"But if the company is paying other drivers bonus to do that work, then should pay him the same. It's about fair treatment."[/B] Fair treatment? Is it fair for this guy to break route by 2 hours and get paid by the company and on the same day another guys tanks 3 hours and cant be fired? As a steward, would you promote this guys termination for not making production as you would the other getting paid for earning his? Think your being fair? [B]3)"As a shop steward, I don't let my dislike for an overall policy get in the way of making sure that an individual member is treated fairly under that policy."[/B] You keep mentioning "policy". Can you demonstrate what the criteria for this policy is? Where is this criteria located? What are the standards for each element of this criteria? Lets deal with facts, not emotion. I have been around a long time, seen many things, been paid "bonus" at a point years ago before UPS stopped paying it, so I know plenty about "bonus". You talk about fairness, but are you really? Would you chastize a driver for being in the hole? If you are going to bat for those breaking standard, should'nt you (in all fairness) go after those not breaking standard? Get the idea? This is why the UNION does'nt recognize bonus nor does it negotiate it in our contracts. Bonus is merely something the company provides in limited areas. There are so many perimeters to consider, it would ultimately "hurt" our drivers rather than helping them. The UNION would NOT have any control over any elements of production and the company could set rediculous standards that would lead to the elimination of drivers for production violations. Bigger picture folks.:dead: [/QUOTE]
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