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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 2521085" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Depends on where you live. I live in a small city on the Plains. For all the talk about factories overseas this town has a bunch of factories. None of them pay a lot per hour(a few pay $18hr after a few years)but most offer a lot of overtime. What I see everywhere is worn out people. Haggard. And you get a sense of an undercurrent of anger. So if one gets into Express early enough AND FedEx keeps it's word on raises, it's a damn good job here. As it would be in many parts of the country. </p><p></p><p>For all the razzing I take on moving to Mexico, I realized early on that the traditional pension was a way out. The folks working in the above factories here early on thought that's just the way it is, life is hard then you die. Their escape is alcohol, and these days drugs like meth. Or they smoke themselves into an early grave, which for some is probably a relief. 60 Minutes had a segment last week on a county in Mississippi where an extremely smart local promoter has brought thousands of jobs in high tech factories. Jobs that pay well and the workers have a future. These are highly automated factories that still require hundreds of workers. This is what I'm hoping for in the Trump administration. Making the U.S. a place where once again good jobs with a future can be found, and that base provides opportunities for entrepreneurs to grow businesses and create meaningful work. The trajectory we're on now makes the U.S. a place to escape from for many of us.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 2521085, member: 24302"] Depends on where you live. I live in a small city on the Plains. For all the talk about factories overseas this town has a bunch of factories. None of them pay a lot per hour(a few pay $18hr after a few years)but most offer a lot of overtime. What I see everywhere is worn out people. Haggard. And you get a sense of an undercurrent of anger. So if one gets into Express early enough AND FedEx keeps it's word on raises, it's a damn good job here. As it would be in many parts of the country. For all the razzing I take on moving to Mexico, I realized early on that the traditional pension was a way out. The folks working in the above factories here early on thought that's just the way it is, life is hard then you die. Their escape is alcohol, and these days drugs like meth. Or they smoke themselves into an early grave, which for some is probably a relief. 60 Minutes had a segment last week on a county in Mississippi where an extremely smart local promoter has brought thousands of jobs in high tech factories. Jobs that pay well and the workers have a future. These are highly automated factories that still require hundreds of workers. This is what I'm hoping for in the Trump administration. Making the U.S. a place where once again good jobs with a future can be found, and that base provides opportunities for entrepreneurs to grow businesses and create meaningful work. The trajectory we're on now makes the U.S. a place to escape from for many of us. [/QUOTE]
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