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<blockquote data-quote="InsideUPS" data-source="post: 1097878" data-attributes="member: 31414"><p>Hello Stink: </p><p></p><p>FWIW, I appreciated your comments on TDU and Ken P. I really was not aware of who he was or that he was the leader of TDU until your post. To be honest, your negative comments did not influence me one way or the other how I felt or currently feel about TDU and Ken P. I am basically a person that is skeptical of all leaders. As I had mentioned in a different thread, I believe having some form of criticism from an opponent is good for us all. I do enjoy reading TDU information but I am not so naive to believe that he or his organization is perfect.</p><p></p><p>Wikipedia had some additional information on Ken P. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Paff" target="_blank">Ken P - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</a> According to Wikipedia, he certainly has a wide variety of credentials including an education at Berkeley in the field of physics and a significant background in labor. </p><p></p><p>I do appreciate the early information that TDU has provided however, speaking on the side of why a "Brownout" of information is important or required, I suppose there could be some policy between our Union negotiators and UPS about prematurely discussing the contract.........especially since this could adversely affect UPS business.</p><p></p><p>In the meantime......we are all big boys and girls and can censor, ignore, or reply to issues here and elsewhere as provided by our First Amendment to the United States Constitution (in accordance with BrownCafe rules). So Stink.....I hope you're happy that you have not violated that Big Contract Book we call the Constitution.</p><p></p><p>However......for those Union stewards who really enjoy digging further into contract language......</p><p></p><p>The right to freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under Article 19 of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights" target="_blank">Universal Declaration of Human Rights</a> and recognized <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_human_rights_law" target="_blank">international human rights law</a> in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Covenant_on_Civil_and_Political_Rights" target="_blank">International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights</a> (ICCPR). Article 19 of the ICCPR states that "[e]veryone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". <u>Article 19 goes on to say that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_responsibility" target="_blank">responsibilities</a>" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "[friend]or respect of the rights or reputation of others"</u> or "[friend]or the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals".[SUP]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech#cite_note-1" target="_blank">[1]</a>[/SUP][SUP]<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech#cite_note-2" target="_blank">[2]</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>[/SUP]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsideUPS, post: 1097878, member: 31414"] Hello Stink: FWIW, I appreciated your comments on TDU and Ken P. I really was not aware of who he was or that he was the leader of TDU until your post. To be honest, your negative comments did not influence me one way or the other how I felt or currently feel about TDU and Ken P. I am basically a person that is skeptical of all leaders. As I had mentioned in a different thread, I believe having some form of criticism from an opponent is good for us all. I do enjoy reading TDU information but I am not so naive to believe that he or his organization is perfect. Wikipedia had some additional information on Ken P. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Paff"]Ken P - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/URL] According to Wikipedia, he certainly has a wide variety of credentials including an education at Berkeley in the field of physics and a significant background in labor. I do appreciate the early information that TDU has provided however, speaking on the side of why a "Brownout" of information is important or required, I suppose there could be some policy between our Union negotiators and UPS about prematurely discussing the contract.........especially since this could adversely affect UPS business. In the meantime......we are all big boys and girls and can censor, ignore, or reply to issues here and elsewhere as provided by our First Amendment to the United States Constitution (in accordance with BrownCafe rules). So Stink.....I hope you're happy that you have not violated that Big Contract Book we call the Constitution. However......for those Union stewards who really enjoy digging further into contract language...... The right to freedom of expression is recognized as a human right under Article 19 of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Declaration_of_Human_Rights"]Universal Declaration of Human Rights[/URL] and recognized [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_human_rights_law"]international human rights law[/URL] in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Covenant_on_Civil_and_Political_Rights"]International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights[/URL] (ICCPR). Article 19 of the ICCPR states that "[e]veryone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference" and "everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice". [U]Article 19 goes on to say that the exercise of these rights carries "special duties and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_responsibility"]responsibilities[/URL]" and may "therefore be subject to certain restrictions" when necessary "[friend]or respect of the rights or reputation of others"[/U] or "[friend]or the protection of national security or of public order (order public), or of public health or morals".[SUP][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech#cite_note-1"][1][/URL][/SUP][SUP][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech#cite_note-2"][2][/URL] [/SUP] [/QUOTE]
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