No Nuclear Phobia
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CaliforniaPaul
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When is Yucca Mountain going on line ?[/QUOTE] Harry Reid and the democrats stopped Yucca Mountain.
Harry Manback
Robot Extraordinaire
Speaking of Yucca Mountain, I heard there were questions raised as to what language to write the warnings in on the containers. Seeing as the waste will be highly lethal for thousands of years to come, what language do you use? Will people still speak English by that time? Will there even be any people? Kinda interesting...
moreluck
golden ticket member
Our neighbor, who works at Edison, San Onofre, came over yesterday with a diagram showing the reactor and all the safety precautions.
For them to compare San Onofre & Fuki... just because they are both oceanside and on a fault is like apples to oranges. The plants are not the same.
I don't understand all the science & math, but he said they are totally different inside. I believe I'm safe here.....and he confirmed that for me.
For them to compare San Onofre & Fuki... just because they are both oceanside and on a fault is like apples to oranges. The plants are not the same.
I don't understand all the science & math, but he said they are totally different inside. I believe I'm safe here.....and he confirmed that for me.
packageguy
Well-Known Member
I say eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we all shall die.
Nuclear ignorance is something that runs rampant in this country. People are relying on Rush Limbaugh for teaching them about science even though Rush has NO FORMAL education and barely made it out of high school.
The other people are relying on a political party to tell them "nothing to see here, avoid the hype" when in fact there is a serious problem in japan.
Before we get to japan, lets talk about nuclear issues here in the states. Before three mile island, we had more serious NUCLEAR FALLOUT in this country and this fallout was responsible for thousands of cases of cancer in this country.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220428-Did-the-Atom-Bomb-Test-Fallout-Cause-Cancer-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_fallout_exposure.png
In this country, the US goverment exploded above ground atom bomb testing for many years in nevada and new mexico without the consideration of nuclear fallout. For a decade, isotopes like iodine131, cesium137, plutonium and cobalt.
If you look at the fallout map, you will see, isotopes fell all over the midwest contaminating milk, chickens, eggs, farmlands and citizens.
Cancers have been linked to these tests in the USA but as a nation, we were NEVER TOLD about the fallout over our country. No one really knows what damage a reactor can do until it explodes and years pass.
In one test (castle bravo) the USA exploded a hydrogen bomb, the largest in history in the pacific atolls. This test did not go as planned as the blast was over 2 times larger than predicted. This bomb spread radioactive isotopes over the pacific, japan, australia, hawaii and the UNITED STATES.
The radiation traveled thousands and thousands of miles and stayed active for years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo
In addition, small populated islands were contaminated with radiation killing natives, causing major cancers to the majority of people and creating severe birth defects to children. The US goverment had to PAY reparations to all people on these islands for the radiation damage to both property and persons.
All people had to be relocated and the islands deserted. Two of our own scientists responsible for this test were exposed to lethal doses of radiation and died. Hundreds of navy seaman were exposed to harmfull doses of radiation and got cancers later.
Radiation ISN'T something that we know how to handle once released into our atmosphere. Sure, we know how to run a nuclear plant while its functioning properly, but once a disaster happens, it becomes nothing more than a huge guessing game, and the guessing affects us all.
In japan, radiation is leaking at about 300 millisieverts an hour. Chernobyl at its peak was releasing 350 millisieverts an hour. Contamination is spreading quickly through japan and is now found in animals, milk, fish, debris, plants, farms and in the water table.
The damage to people is unknown at this time but it will take years for cancers and the like to show on japans citizens.
The reactor plant in japan has 6 reactors and two of them are in critical condition. Reactor 4 and 3 are the most crucial and are releasing the largest amount of radiation. Reactors 3 and 4 are releasing iodine 131 and cesium 137 into the atmosphere in consistent levels. These isotopes are traveling into our atmosphere and it is not known what damage they could cause to americans.
It is possible for radiation to travel here through the air as it did when the castle bravo fallout reached the united states from the pacific. Anyone who tells you differently doesnt know crap about nuclear fallout.
The real threat to us as americans rests with the fate of reactor 1, which if compromised will release PLUTONIUM which is more deadly than the other isotopes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium
If a castastrophic event happens at reactor 4 and an explosion occurs, the plant will have to be abandoned and all the other reactors will become jeopardized.
In this country, the designs include redundancies for safety, however, none of them have ever had to be tested so we do not know if they will work.
Nuclear power has always been a hazard to americans and no safety program can make it safe. It can only be safe when solutions are known to work when something goes wrong.
In japan, they are down to pouring sandbags and cement over the reactor to seal it, and that is NOT A SOLUTION.
Read up on nuclear fallout, see how many people in this country are stricken with cancers that were caused by nuclear testing and ask yourself if you can believe those responsible for giving your loved ones cancer to give you advice on how safe nuclear reactors are in this country.
Peace.
The other people are relying on a political party to tell them "nothing to see here, avoid the hype" when in fact there is a serious problem in japan.
Before we get to japan, lets talk about nuclear issues here in the states. Before three mile island, we had more serious NUCLEAR FALLOUT in this country and this fallout was responsible for thousands of cases of cancer in this country.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220428-Did-the-Atom-Bomb-Test-Fallout-Cause-Cancer-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_fallout_exposure.png
In this country, the US goverment exploded above ground atom bomb testing for many years in nevada and new mexico without the consideration of nuclear fallout. For a decade, isotopes like iodine131, cesium137, plutonium and cobalt.
If you look at the fallout map, you will see, isotopes fell all over the midwest contaminating milk, chickens, eggs, farmlands and citizens.
Cancers have been linked to these tests in the USA but as a nation, we were NEVER TOLD about the fallout over our country. No one really knows what damage a reactor can do until it explodes and years pass.
In one test (castle bravo) the USA exploded a hydrogen bomb, the largest in history in the pacific atolls. This test did not go as planned as the blast was over 2 times larger than predicted. This bomb spread radioactive isotopes over the pacific, japan, australia, hawaii and the UNITED STATES.
The radiation traveled thousands and thousands of miles and stayed active for years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Bravo
In addition, small populated islands were contaminated with radiation killing natives, causing major cancers to the majority of people and creating severe birth defects to children. The US goverment had to PAY reparations to all people on these islands for the radiation damage to both property and persons.
All people had to be relocated and the islands deserted. Two of our own scientists responsible for this test were exposed to lethal doses of radiation and died. Hundreds of navy seaman were exposed to harmfull doses of radiation and got cancers later.
Radiation ISN'T something that we know how to handle once released into our atmosphere. Sure, we know how to run a nuclear plant while its functioning properly, but once a disaster happens, it becomes nothing more than a huge guessing game, and the guessing affects us all.
In japan, radiation is leaking at about 300 millisieverts an hour. Chernobyl at its peak was releasing 350 millisieverts an hour. Contamination is spreading quickly through japan and is now found in animals, milk, fish, debris, plants, farms and in the water table.
The damage to people is unknown at this time but it will take years for cancers and the like to show on japans citizens.
The reactor plant in japan has 6 reactors and two of them are in critical condition. Reactor 4 and 3 are the most crucial and are releasing the largest amount of radiation. Reactors 3 and 4 are releasing iodine 131 and cesium 137 into the atmosphere in consistent levels. These isotopes are traveling into our atmosphere and it is not known what damage they could cause to americans.
It is possible for radiation to travel here through the air as it did when the castle bravo fallout reached the united states from the pacific. Anyone who tells you differently doesnt know crap about nuclear fallout.
The real threat to us as americans rests with the fate of reactor 1, which if compromised will release PLUTONIUM which is more deadly than the other isotopes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium
If a castastrophic event happens at reactor 4 and an explosion occurs, the plant will have to be abandoned and all the other reactors will become jeopardized.
In this country, the designs include redundancies for safety, however, none of them have ever had to be tested so we do not know if they will work.
Nuclear power has always been a hazard to americans and no safety program can make it safe. It can only be safe when solutions are known to work when something goes wrong.
In japan, they are down to pouring sandbags and cement over the reactor to seal it, and that is NOT A SOLUTION.
Read up on nuclear fallout, see how many people in this country are stricken with cancers that were caused by nuclear testing and ask yourself if you can believe those responsible for giving your loved ones cancer to give you advice on how safe nuclear reactors are in this country.
Peace.
trplnkl
555
Huh, and to think all this time they've been telling us that smoking caused all that cancer.
Seriously, I have never been a proponent of NU CLEAR power plants. I have reached a point in my life that worrying over all this is academic though, there is not a damn thing we can do as long as our government is hell bent to put them in operation. Oh, yea we can complain to our elected officials, even vote them out of office, but that is very minimal in results. So becoming educated on the subject solves exactly what?
Seriously, I have never been a proponent of NU CLEAR power plants. I have reached a point in my life that worrying over all this is academic though, there is not a damn thing we can do as long as our government is hell bent to put them in operation. Oh, yea we can complain to our elected officials, even vote them out of office, but that is very minimal in results. So becoming educated on the subject solves exactly what?
MrFedEx
Engorged Member
Interesting chart:
Please explain it to Rush. His GED doesn't allow him to understand something this complicated.
trplnkl
555
Do you own or use a cell phone? Is that computer you are posting on here with a lap top ? Hope you don't want anymore kids. ( for multiple reasons)
hubrat
Squeaky Wheel
hubrat
Squeaky Wheel
Clearly he can act like a troll.
If you think 4 years in the BC gives him some kinda special seniority, I've been here 7.
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realbrown1
Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
It's funny because it's so true.
The liberals use the RACE card the second they realize they've lost the argument.
For nuclear power is a government/taxpayer-guaranteed boondoggle whose staggering costs, incurred and deferred, are absorbed by American taxpayers via a supine government regulatory and subsidy apparatus.
So if you go to work at the NEI and you read about the absence of any permanent radioactive waste storage site, no problem, the government/taxpayers are responsible for transporting and safeguarding that lethal garbage for centuries.
theres a nuclear reactor near manhattan and if it blows, all of manhattan is at major risk
So if you go to work at the NEI and you read about the absence of any permanent radioactive waste storage site, no problem, the government/taxpayers are responsible for transporting and safeguarding that lethal garbage for centuries.
theres a nuclear reactor near manhattan and if it blows, all of manhattan is at major risk
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