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<blockquote data-quote="Buffaloaf" data-source="post: 584291" data-attributes="member: 20890"><p>I don't think it's a matter of race; it's a matter of power and profit. People that oppose a public healthcare option either don't understand it because they are too lazy to read the legislation that is available for everyone to read or because they believe that their personal taxes will increase dramatically in order to support the public option.</p><p> </p><p>At any rate, I think that a large number of people are not seeing the big picture when it comes to nationalized health care. One thing is that it will create a large number of blue collar and white collar jobs. We are not going to have 50 million more people covered under insurance and not have the same number of hospitals, nurses, and doctors. There will need to be nearly twice as many hospitals and clinics, which would create plenty of work for construction, freight, manufacturing suppliers, janitors, clerks, and, of course, health professionals. The more people that are paying taxes (because they are not unemployed and/or are working a better job) the larger pool of money we have to draw from in order to pay off bills. That's just one important thing that I think often gets overlooked.</p><p> </p><p>Another thing that I think is important is this: We know at UPS that we do a better job of managing ourselves than USPS. As it is, Insurance Companies are not managing themselves well and have caused the problem of soaring insurance rates. By bringing in a public option it will cause two things to either happen: 1. The public option will be far better than the private option and no one will want to use private insurance anymore; or 2. The public option will fail / be mediocre and in order to compete with it, the private option will become leaner and meaner (because they will have REAL competition for the first time) and will find a way to adapt to the public option. UPS has managed to exist for a long time with the public option (USPS), so why shouldn't private insurance? If private insurance is truly providing a better service for people, then it will be able to survive just as UPS / FedEx has. The last union contract saw a reduction in health care benefits for Teamsters (takes a year or whatever to get health care); if health care costs continue to increase (Management saw their contributions to health benefits nearly deouble) it's only a matter of time before the negotiated health care benefit with no contribution by union employees gets approached by the company. I would ventre to guess that the contribution that UPS pays on a weekly basis for a Part-time employees health care is more than what they make in a week in pay. During a time right now while production is a huge concern, many people take unpaid days off. But if UPS is paying for someone's health care (and their health care is more expensive than the cost of working them); what is the point of having them not work and having them on payroll. The company is losing money even though the production numbers say it's making the goal. At any rate, I think that we are on a very slippery slope in health care and that without reform, it will begin to affect those who have insurance (for those that havn't already had it affect them). Just something to think about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buffaloaf, post: 584291, member: 20890"] I don't think it's a matter of race; it's a matter of power and profit. People that oppose a public healthcare option either don't understand it because they are too lazy to read the legislation that is available for everyone to read or because they believe that their personal taxes will increase dramatically in order to support the public option. At any rate, I think that a large number of people are not seeing the big picture when it comes to nationalized health care. One thing is that it will create a large number of blue collar and white collar jobs. We are not going to have 50 million more people covered under insurance and not have the same number of hospitals, nurses, and doctors. There will need to be nearly twice as many hospitals and clinics, which would create plenty of work for construction, freight, manufacturing suppliers, janitors, clerks, and, of course, health professionals. The more people that are paying taxes (because they are not unemployed and/or are working a better job) the larger pool of money we have to draw from in order to pay off bills. That's just one important thing that I think often gets overlooked. Another thing that I think is important is this: We know at UPS that we do a better job of managing ourselves than USPS. As it is, Insurance Companies are not managing themselves well and have caused the problem of soaring insurance rates. By bringing in a public option it will cause two things to either happen: 1. The public option will be far better than the private option and no one will want to use private insurance anymore; or 2. The public option will fail / be mediocre and in order to compete with it, the private option will become leaner and meaner (because they will have REAL competition for the first time) and will find a way to adapt to the public option. UPS has managed to exist for a long time with the public option (USPS), so why shouldn't private insurance? If private insurance is truly providing a better service for people, then it will be able to survive just as UPS / FedEx has. The last union contract saw a reduction in health care benefits for Teamsters (takes a year or whatever to get health care); if health care costs continue to increase (Management saw their contributions to health benefits nearly deouble) it's only a matter of time before the negotiated health care benefit with no contribution by union employees gets approached by the company. I would ventre to guess that the contribution that UPS pays on a weekly basis for a Part-time employees health care is more than what they make in a week in pay. During a time right now while production is a huge concern, many people take unpaid days off. But if UPS is paying for someone's health care (and their health care is more expensive than the cost of working them); what is the point of having them not work and having them on payroll. The company is losing money even though the production numbers say it's making the goal. At any rate, I think that we are on a very slippery slope in health care and that without reform, it will begin to affect those who have insurance (for those that havn't already had it affect them). Just something to think about. [/QUOTE]
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