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<blockquote data-quote="Stonefish" data-source="post: 1210260" data-attributes="member: 50401"><p>That was funny. So who negotiated the contracts? You? If you did you know how negotiations work. If you didn't you should learn more about it and actually try it. You might understand the process then. It isn't sitting around looking for ways to upset the members it's trying to do what's best for them. Sometimes people don't like the results. If you did processed 85 grievances in a year I'm sure you didn't make everyone of your members happy with all 85 of them. If you can make everyone happy you deal with tell me where i can come get a job with you. It might just be a perfect world. I am fine with you and others being upset, my issue is with the comments about being "screwed" by their union. There are alot of good union brothers and sisters who do a good job for the members they represent, we have several in my local. Our stewards and officials do a good job for the members. They deserve credit not criticism for the work they do. How many people show up at you union meetings? How many showed up at your proposal meeting? Does anyone talk with those who live next to you or even their family to look at what is happening around the world and actually have a sense of reality instead of entitlement? People say I would pay $50 a week to keep my healthcare in the UPS. The reality is they wouldn't and UPS is not going to have that plan next year or any year after that. The progression is too long. The part-time employees don't make enough. Where do you think the money for wages, benefits, high back seats in feeders, triple time for 9.5 grievances, the right to force the company to hire drivers, etc. comes from? Local 348 has their own healthcare plan. They have had that plan since probably before we were born and no one cared. I am sure it's a good plan, it's a good local but the reality is look at all healthcare plans around the country not just UPS or union plans and see the funding levels and benefit levels of those plans. Being upset is fine you shouldn't be a sheep you should have the right to voice your opinion. I just don't agree when people think they got screwed when something changes they aren't happy with. It served no purpose for the IBT or local officials to upset the members, they have to get re-elected.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stonefish, post: 1210260, member: 50401"] That was funny. So who negotiated the contracts? You? If you did you know how negotiations work. If you didn't you should learn more about it and actually try it. You might understand the process then. It isn't sitting around looking for ways to upset the members it's trying to do what's best for them. Sometimes people don't like the results. If you did processed 85 grievances in a year I'm sure you didn't make everyone of your members happy with all 85 of them. If you can make everyone happy you deal with tell me where i can come get a job with you. It might just be a perfect world. I am fine with you and others being upset, my issue is with the comments about being "screwed" by their union. There are alot of good union brothers and sisters who do a good job for the members they represent, we have several in my local. Our stewards and officials do a good job for the members. They deserve credit not criticism for the work they do. How many people show up at you union meetings? How many showed up at your proposal meeting? Does anyone talk with those who live next to you or even their family to look at what is happening around the world and actually have a sense of reality instead of entitlement? People say I would pay $50 a week to keep my healthcare in the UPS. The reality is they wouldn't and UPS is not going to have that plan next year or any year after that. The progression is too long. The part-time employees don't make enough. Where do you think the money for wages, benefits, high back seats in feeders, triple time for 9.5 grievances, the right to force the company to hire drivers, etc. comes from? Local 348 has their own healthcare plan. They have had that plan since probably before we were born and no one cared. I am sure it's a good plan, it's a good local but the reality is look at all healthcare plans around the country not just UPS or union plans and see the funding levels and benefit levels of those plans. Being upset is fine you shouldn't be a sheep you should have the right to voice your opinion. I just don't agree when people think they got screwed when something changes they aren't happy with. It served no purpose for the IBT or local officials to upset the members, they have to get re-elected. [/QUOTE]
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