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Pros and Cons of not joining the union? Hub worker candidate here in At-Will state.
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<blockquote data-quote="hypocrisy" data-source="post: 918073" data-attributes="member: 9500"><p><strong>Re: Pros and Cons of not joining the union? Hub worker candidate here in At-Will sta</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I really wish I had known about this prior to devoting countless hours of missed sleep coming in early every day to represent over 100 part timers in disciplinary meetings for 2 years because no one within the preload was competent enough nor motivated enough to do it. I lost count of how many jobs I saved from arbitrary discipline meted out by the vindictive management they had and when they were replaced I put in a fair, documentation-heavy discipline system that stands to this day. </p><p></p><p>As for wages, this has been discussed <em>ad nauseum. </em>UPS insisted on keeping the starting wage at $8.50. I know this as a fact straight from the bargaining table. UPS is now reaping the rewards of paying substandard starting wages by keeping their turnover high. Perhaps the minimum wage will catch up to the starting wage and they will be forced to increase it. The progression is fair and rewards tenure which is a standard of both UPS and the Teamsters. Part-timers outnumber Full time by more than 2:1 so if they were not happy with the last and previous contracts that did not increase the starting wage they were more than welcome to vote them down (reason #1 to be in the Union).</p><p></p><p>Health benefits are paid the same regardless of whether you are friend/t or p/t so I don't see where you are getting an subsidies out of that. The pension, ours in the West at least, has you vested at 5 years regardless of whether you are friend/t or p/t which is fairly standard. </p><p></p><p>Apparently you were misinformed as a part-timer and remain so. </p><p></p><p>I can understand UPS' argument that their high turnover in p/t precludes increasing the starting wage but they are being shortsighted and not recognizing that by failing to have at least a decent, competitive starting wage they are not attracting good candidates that will stick around. It's unfortunate but there aren't enough people out there who will persevere to reap the benefits and we all know that UPS pays off in the long haul. </p><p></p><p>To the OP: you are obviously trolling as others have in the past. Keep believing the RTW crap you espouse and see how you benefit from it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hypocrisy, post: 918073, member: 9500"] [b]Re: Pros and Cons of not joining the union? Hub worker candidate here in At-Will sta[/b] I really wish I had known about this prior to devoting countless hours of missed sleep coming in early every day to represent over 100 part timers in disciplinary meetings for 2 years because no one within the preload was competent enough nor motivated enough to do it. I lost count of how many jobs I saved from arbitrary discipline meted out by the vindictive management they had and when they were replaced I put in a fair, documentation-heavy discipline system that stands to this day. As for wages, this has been discussed [I]ad nauseum. [/I]UPS insisted on keeping the starting wage at $8.50. I know this as a fact straight from the bargaining table. UPS is now reaping the rewards of paying substandard starting wages by keeping their turnover high. Perhaps the minimum wage will catch up to the starting wage and they will be forced to increase it. The progression is fair and rewards tenure which is a standard of both UPS and the Teamsters. Part-timers outnumber Full time by more than 2:1 so if they were not happy with the last and previous contracts that did not increase the starting wage they were more than welcome to vote them down (reason #1 to be in the Union). Health benefits are paid the same regardless of whether you are friend/t or p/t so I don't see where you are getting an subsidies out of that. The pension, ours in the West at least, has you vested at 5 years regardless of whether you are friend/t or p/t which is fairly standard. Apparently you were misinformed as a part-timer and remain so. I can understand UPS' argument that their high turnover in p/t precludes increasing the starting wage but they are being shortsighted and not recognizing that by failing to have at least a decent, competitive starting wage they are not attracting good candidates that will stick around. It's unfortunate but there aren't enough people out there who will persevere to reap the benefits and we all know that UPS pays off in the long haul. To the OP: you are obviously trolling as others have in the past. Keep believing the RTW crap you espouse and see how you benefit from it. [/QUOTE]
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