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Pros and Cons of not joining the union? Hub worker candidate here in At-Will state.
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<blockquote data-quote="Catatonic" data-source="post: 918096" data-attributes="member: 7966"><p><strong>Re: Pros and Cons of not joining the union? Hub worker candidate here in At-Will sta</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #006400">From what I have read from you on here, I fully believe this.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000cd">I believe you when you say you have heard this ... I have differently. UPS actually spends millions to try and reduce P/T turnover ... that is a fact and I have seen the figures. What I have heard is that the Union never is willing to reduce driver compensation to fund increases in P/T wages. Practically all Union members that influence the Teamster/UPS contract are friend/T drivers ... part-timers don't participate for whatever reason.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #800080">My point is that P/T rarely use their health plan benefits and even more rarely stay around for 5 years or more to realize any benefit from their pension benefits. This is especially true since almost all pension benefits are back-loaded in the last few years of employment. Look at the non-linear benefits for an employee for 10 years versus 25. The difference is much greater than the 2.5 factor (10 * 2.5 = 25).</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff8c00">I certainly was misinformed or indifferent when I was a P/T but I think my skepticism and analytical skills serve me well now. and don't forget my Personal Quote - "Ignore words, judge by actions. Pay no attention to what people say...observe their actions." </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Sounds reasonable and you may be right.</span></p><p><span style="color: #8b4513"></span></p><p><span style="color: #8b4513">I happen to agree with you. US based UPS employees that actually handle and progress the physical packages are in an enviable position to many other workers in the US such as FedEx employees.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Catatonic, post: 918096, member: 7966"] [b]Re: Pros and Cons of not joining the union? Hub worker candidate here in At-Will sta[/b] [COLOR=#006400]From what I have read from you on here, I fully believe this.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000cd]I believe you when you say you have heard this ... I have differently. UPS actually spends millions to try and reduce P/T turnover ... that is a fact and I have seen the figures. What I have heard is that the Union never is willing to reduce driver compensation to fund increases in P/T wages. Practically all Union members that influence the Teamster/UPS contract are friend/T drivers ... part-timers don't participate for whatever reason.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#800080]My point is that P/T rarely use their health plan benefits and even more rarely stay around for 5 years or more to realize any benefit from their pension benefits. This is especially true since almost all pension benefits are back-loaded in the last few years of employment. Look at the non-linear benefits for an employee for 10 years versus 25. The difference is much greater than the 2.5 factor (10 * 2.5 = 25).[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff8c00]I certainly was misinformed or indifferent when I was a P/T but I think my skepticism and analytical skills serve me well now. and don't forget my Personal Quote - "Ignore words, judge by actions. Pay no attention to what people say...observe their actions." [/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000] Sounds reasonable and you may be right.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#8b4513] I happen to agree with you. US based UPS employees that actually handle and progress the physical packages are in an enviable position to many other workers in the US such as FedEx employees.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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