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<blockquote data-quote="Mike23" data-source="post: 563703"><p>I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to toot my own horn, merely show that it's our customers that are important, not our managers.</p><p></p><p>I'm actually one of the most outspoken drivers in my depot about management. I hate 90% of our managers and inform them of this on a regular basis. I have been told, a lot, by them that I should quit my job if I'm not willing to be their 'team player'. The other ones are actually useful and know how to properly do their job without creating havoc for a driver. Do I think they deserve a lighter route? Of course! Do I think they should be able to 'float' until retirement? Hell no.</p><p></p><p>I also don't think I did 7 years in my 1 year. If I did I'm worried I'd be more bitter and cynical come 7 years because that would be 49 years of service and no person could do that and survive it! </p><p></p><p>I do, however, look at UPS from a business point of view though (sometimes) and an economy point of view (though not often). If you have 2 drivers that, lets say, create an extra 100 packages going to the same area in another town that will get 1 driver his job back. These 2 drivers though, might not be able to do this because you have 2 drivers who don't want more pickup volume so refuse to tell sales reps about it.</p><p></p><p>It doesn't just come down to that one or two veteran drivers. It turns into making a sales rep look good (which I respect the sales reps in Calgary, they work longer hours then the drivers do!) and helps keep their job. In turn, with him keeping his job, they're able to make other sales leads which leads to our drivers being hired back instead of laid off.</p><p></p><p>If you keep those veteran drivers though because of their seniority, it costs other people their jobs. I know, it doesn't come down to ONE veteran driver, but if you have 10 at a building that don't even try to bring in volume and just plan on floating until retirement it decreases the amount of volume and jobs for other drivers, not just in their city but world wide.</p><p></p><p>Also, since UPS is a multigenerational company (what is it? Four generations now?) it puts the next generation at risk. Who's to say your son or daughter won't work for UPS? If they had a choice between working at a 7/11 or UPS which would you rather have them do? By not trying to increase our volume they'll be working at that 7/11. I hope they enjoy mopping floors.</p><p></p><p>Are all these examples extreme? I don't think so. If you look at the amount of dead weight we have (and no not ALL veteran drivers are dead weight) it would likely be at least 10 000 dead weight drivers. Of course, that's in contrast to the 100 000 dead weight managers. If you get rid of the dead weight the company works better and you give 20 000 people a job instead of 10 000 that couldn't care less.</p><p></p><p>Also could we call the award, 'Super Duper Spiffy Jiffy Driver of the Year Award'? I just like the sound of it.</p><p></p><p>I also don't get off topic very easil....oooooh shiny! <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike23, post: 563703"] I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to toot my own horn, merely show that it's our customers that are important, not our managers. I'm actually one of the most outspoken drivers in my depot about management. I hate 90% of our managers and inform them of this on a regular basis. I have been told, a lot, by them that I should quit my job if I'm not willing to be their 'team player'. The other ones are actually useful and know how to properly do their job without creating havoc for a driver. Do I think they deserve a lighter route? Of course! Do I think they should be able to 'float' until retirement? Hell no. I also don't think I did 7 years in my 1 year. If I did I'm worried I'd be more bitter and cynical come 7 years because that would be 49 years of service and no person could do that and survive it! I do, however, look at UPS from a business point of view though (sometimes) and an economy point of view (though not often). If you have 2 drivers that, lets say, create an extra 100 packages going to the same area in another town that will get 1 driver his job back. These 2 drivers though, might not be able to do this because you have 2 drivers who don't want more pickup volume so refuse to tell sales reps about it. It doesn't just come down to that one or two veteran drivers. It turns into making a sales rep look good (which I respect the sales reps in Calgary, they work longer hours then the drivers do!) and helps keep their job. In turn, with him keeping his job, they're able to make other sales leads which leads to our drivers being hired back instead of laid off. If you keep those veteran drivers though because of their seniority, it costs other people their jobs. I know, it doesn't come down to ONE veteran driver, but if you have 10 at a building that don't even try to bring in volume and just plan on floating until retirement it decreases the amount of volume and jobs for other drivers, not just in their city but world wide. Also, since UPS is a multigenerational company (what is it? Four generations now?) it puts the next generation at risk. Who's to say your son or daughter won't work for UPS? If they had a choice between working at a 7/11 or UPS which would you rather have them do? By not trying to increase our volume they'll be working at that 7/11. I hope they enjoy mopping floors. Are all these examples extreme? I don't think so. If you look at the amount of dead weight we have (and no not ALL veteran drivers are dead weight) it would likely be at least 10 000 dead weight drivers. Of course, that's in contrast to the 100 000 dead weight managers. If you get rid of the dead weight the company works better and you give 20 000 people a job instead of 10 000 that couldn't care less. Also could we call the award, 'Super Duper Spiffy Jiffy Driver of the Year Award'? I just like the sound of it. I also don't get off topic very easil....oooooh shiny! :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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