Purplepackage
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Are you going to be a driver/owner or are you hiring a driver/manager to take care of certain issues? Like when someone just doesn’t show up in the morning
Question to current contractors: do these numbers look right?
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Are you going to be a driver/owner or are you hiring a driver/manager to take care of certain issues? Like when someone just doesn’t show up in the morning
But unlike you I drove a route myself from the first day i was there until the last day I was there......and unlike you I wouldn't make people go out and work in weather conditions I wouldn't work in myself.......If they were out there.... I was out there with them.
It will be fine
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Until you sold some poor sucker an asset you claim has no value and demand he pay you while forcing other people to do work you now refuse to do. Cool cool.
Methods Man
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$15/hr.... No benefits.... lol
It’s actually lower than that if you figure in the lost overtime pay they would get by going to work for the other companies FXG is mainly competing with.
Creative and funny huh? Just another snide remark coming from another arrogant Boston Masshole. Now to get to the facts. If I refused to do that work then why is there a current DOT medical card in my wallet? It's because I don't HAVE to do it. Secondly, the offer to buy my contract was unsolicited . The final outrage which compelled me to accept his offer was being ordered a couple of weeks earlier by X to turn over to them my private payroll records for their evaluation and audit in complete and willful violation of US law. And I'm quite certain that by this time you " Mr. Successful Businessman" has had to turn over to X your payroll records at least once but probably more than once and being the company's coffee boy you "Mr. Successful Businessman" whimpered and rolled over on your back like a trained dog , and meekly handed your records over to them and gave them a kiss.
59 Dano
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Bud, I'm not working at Applebee's or McDonald's, I already make a decent wage and have an education.
I take issue with mainly your first comment; labour is in like at 45%, could definitely be lower. What that reads to me is you don't care about the people you plan on hiring. You'll pay themwages, profit and be comfortable off of them busting their ass for what you consider a "liveable wage".
Here's how it works. He'll get some people that will appreciate $15/hour because no one else will pay them that much. They won't be as good as people who could earn $20/hour elsewhere, but they'll be better than people whose work isn't worth much more than $10/hour.
Why are people so ignorant about labor economics?
One person on a message board said she couldn't live on that, so I guess that settles it!
It will be fine
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Whatever helps you sleep at night. You cry about how there isn’t enough money to operate in your area but saddled someone else with massive debt forcing them to pay you everything the route makes while you sit at home. The hypocrisy is obscene.
It will be fine
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People like to be self righteous and act like there’s a moral failing when employers pay a market level wage. These guys also like to feel superior to the people doing their jobs for less as if they have better skills or are somehow more deserving of better money. I think it’s just delusion.
dezguy
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Is $15/hour a livable wage, in your opinion? Could you house, feed and clothe yourself off of $36000/year, before taxes?
It will be fine
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I used to live off part time package handler wages that were substantially less than that. I wouldn’t recommend it but it’s doable.
Route 66
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Fred's Myth
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dezguy
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So, you wouldn't recommend it but this guy and dano believe paying someone poverty wages is acceptable.
It will be fine
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If it’s acceptable for the employee, and it is if they are willing to do the work for that compensation, who are you or I to say differently? I imagine we’ve all done jobs that we felt underpaid us. We worked to get better jobs, I don’t see the problem.
Purplepackage
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So when you hire someone do you tell them that you hope they don’t stay long? That they should only use this as a filler for employment?
When people hear Fedex they don’t think interim employment, they think wow I found a career now
Fred's Myth
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Poverty Thresholds Versus Poverty Guidelines for Households With Four People, 2017
Household Size and Composition
Poverty Threshold / Poverty Guideline
Two parents, two children $24,858 / $25,100
One adult, three children $24,944
Four unrelated adults $12,752 (for each adult under age 65) $11,756 (for each adult age 65 or older)
One adult (mother), two children (family 1), one unrelated adult under age 65 (family 2)
$19,749 (family 1)/ $12,752 (family 2)
Two parents, one child, one relative (for example, aunt)
$25,696
According to these 2017 (latest figures) results, your $30,000+ income ISN'Tn poverty wages.
U.S. Poverty Thresholds and Poverty Guidelines: What’s the Difference? – Population Reference Bureau
It will be fine
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I don’t really care how long they stay. It doesn’t take long to train someone. When they get better jobs, as long as they give me proper notice, I shake their hand and wish them well. Manual labor shouldn’t be a career.
It's when employers get after other employers for failing to pay a wage that they say everyone deserves to have a life, then refuse to pay more themselves, that's when there's a moral failing and a fair bit of hypocrisy.