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Ron H (L-396) loosing his beauty sleep weeks before nominations, LOL!
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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1411464" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>It was a heck of alot more than 8K.</p><p></p><p>Lets do some math. According to you, approx. 300 people showed up. OF those 300 people, divide it in half for wives, children and guests.</p><p></p><p>Thats approx. 150 members eligible to vote.</p><p></p><p>Now, of those 150 members, a small percentage of them will be unable to vote ie: outstanding dues, etc etc.. What difference does it make if 500 people showed up, and yet only 150 of them could actually vote in the election? Lets not exaggerate the reality of fund raising.</p><p></p><p>The money "isnt" relative to a victory. All the "superlatives" you used in your original post are ridiculous at best.</p><p></p><p>ie:</p><p></p><p>1) "The UPS teamsters of Los Angeles's Local 396 are angry at Ron H for the piece of garbage contract we were serve"</p><p></p><p>It was ratified on the second go round. </p><p></p><p>2) " The people there angry by these goons, almost came to blows with Ron's goons"</p><p></p><p>Sounds like the same G gameplan with the "almost fights" that plagued his last campaign.</p><p></p><p>3) "as they yelled out the magical "friend" word directed towards Ron H. "</p><p></p><p>ahh, professionalism at its best. Yet, you call Rons people "goons", then follow it up with this. </p><p></p><p>4) "Everyone familiar with Southern California knows very well that no one has ever packed two fundraisers with so many angered members or even raised the amount of money the G Slate has"</p><p></p><p>Where do you get this stuff? R. would raise almost 15K every election year in campaign money. i would know, I was a part of the administration.</p><p></p><p>5) " The harassment against G's followers is out of control. Management with the assistance of business agents is working in collusion to get slate members and followers terminated. "</p><p></p><p>This is incorrect. G.s own people are getting themselves FIRED for their own actions which are OUT of LINE and UNPROFESSIONAL. Same as in the last election when G. blew smoke up D.s rear end and he took that smoke and turned it into self destruction.</p><p></p><p>6) "This will be the closest election in Local 396 history"</p><p></p><p>Where do you get this idea from? There has never been a close contest in our local, and the last time out, G. got stomped into the ground by almost 2 to 1. Somehow, you believe that the odds of turning that around is within grasp when G. has at least three groups of people campaigning against him? ( the current board, My group, and full timers)</p><p></p><p>7) "The participation of the membership at 396 has Ronnie H loosing his beauty sleep these days. "</p><p></p><p>Believe me, Ron is sleeping like a baby knowing he is facing G. The only real challenge he had to worry about was the one from Me and my group. He knows that isnt happening, and facing G. makes it that much easier to sleep knowing its simply a formality at this point.</p><p></p><p>You yourself have stated that G.s people were shouting out the friend bomb at the poker party, and in saying so, you demonstrate G.s inability to be supported by members with professionalism. Like little hoodrats, you want to stand in the streets and scream obscenities and shake your fists. </p><p></p><p>This isnt the kind of thing/action that the senior members will support. It may be the kind of stupid action you like to see, but not senior members.</p><p></p><p>Its this uglyness that G. promotes that makes him a non viable candidate. People like you , believing you are spreading "the good word" only hurt G.</p><p></p><p>Just make a footnote, that in the coming weeks, G. will face criticism at the gates from his counterparts and all the smoke blown up his rear end by Fred ZZZZ will have evaporated by then.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1411464, member: 17969"] It was a heck of alot more than 8K. Lets do some math. According to you, approx. 300 people showed up. OF those 300 people, divide it in half for wives, children and guests. Thats approx. 150 members eligible to vote. Now, of those 150 members, a small percentage of them will be unable to vote ie: outstanding dues, etc etc.. What difference does it make if 500 people showed up, and yet only 150 of them could actually vote in the election? Lets not exaggerate the reality of fund raising. The money "isnt" relative to a victory. All the "superlatives" you used in your original post are ridiculous at best. ie: 1) "The UPS teamsters of Los Angeles's Local 396 are angry at Ron H for the piece of garbage contract we were serve" It was ratified on the second go round. 2) " The people there angry by these goons, almost came to blows with Ron's goons" Sounds like the same G gameplan with the "almost fights" that plagued his last campaign. 3) "as they yelled out the magical "friend" word directed towards Ron H. " ahh, professionalism at its best. Yet, you call Rons people "goons", then follow it up with this. 4) "Everyone familiar with Southern California knows very well that no one has ever packed two fundraisers with so many angered members or even raised the amount of money the G Slate has" Where do you get this stuff? R. would raise almost 15K every election year in campaign money. i would know, I was a part of the administration. 5) " The harassment against G's followers is out of control. Management with the assistance of business agents is working in collusion to get slate members and followers terminated. " This is incorrect. G.s own people are getting themselves FIRED for their own actions which are OUT of LINE and UNPROFESSIONAL. Same as in the last election when G. blew smoke up D.s rear end and he took that smoke and turned it into self destruction. 6) "This will be the closest election in Local 396 history" Where do you get this idea from? There has never been a close contest in our local, and the last time out, G. got stomped into the ground by almost 2 to 1. Somehow, you believe that the odds of turning that around is within grasp when G. has at least three groups of people campaigning against him? ( the current board, My group, and full timers) 7) "The participation of the membership at 396 has Ronnie H loosing his beauty sleep these days. " Believe me, Ron is sleeping like a baby knowing he is facing G. The only real challenge he had to worry about was the one from Me and my group. He knows that isnt happening, and facing G. makes it that much easier to sleep knowing its simply a formality at this point. You yourself have stated that G.s people were shouting out the friend bomb at the poker party, and in saying so, you demonstrate G.s inability to be supported by members with professionalism. Like little hoodrats, you want to stand in the streets and scream obscenities and shake your fists. This isnt the kind of thing/action that the senior members will support. It may be the kind of stupid action you like to see, but not senior members. Its this uglyness that G. promotes that makes him a non viable candidate. People like you , believing you are spreading "the good word" only hurt G. Just make a footnote, that in the coming weeks, G. will face criticism at the gates from his counterparts and all the smoke blown up his rear end by Fred ZZZZ will have evaporated by then. TOS. [/QUOTE]
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