Saudi Arabia ends diplomatic relations with Iran

[Operational needs]

Uh oh. The Saudi's are NOT happy. They're giving Iran 48 hours to get their diplomats out of Saudi Arabia.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35217328

 

[Sportello]

Do we side with the Saudi's, who financed 9-11, and now fund the Sunni Daesh, or the Ayatollah who funds Shi'a terrorism?

I'm guessing whatever we do, it will be wrong. The whole 'enemy of my enemy' thing gets complicated. From a layman's POV, I see one as religious, the other as national.

 

[Operational needs]

Do we side with the Saudi's, who financed 9-11, and now fund the Sunni Daesh, or the Ayatollah who funds Shi'a terrorism?

I'm guessing whatever we do, it will be wrong. The whole 'enemy of my enemy' thing gets complicated. From a layman's POV, I see one as religious, the other as national.

I think we should stay out of it and let them handle their own.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I think we should stay out of it and let them handle their own.

Would you apply that logic to other countries as well?
Israel, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine/Crimea.....

 

[Operational needs]

Would you apply that logic to other countries as well?

Yep. I think it's time for the US to take a break from trying to "save the world". Our country and infrastructure are falling apart because we are spending so much money overseas trying to buy goodwill. A lot of the countries we "help" take our money and call us fools.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Yep. I think it's time for the US to take a break from trying to "save the world". Our country and infrastructure are falling apart because we are spending so much money overseas trying to buy goodwill. A lot of the countries we "help" take our money and call us fools.

I agree.
Unfortunately the Republican and Democratic parties don't share this view, and most Americans see those two parties as their only choices.

 

[bbsam]

Leading from behind = bad.

 

[rod]

Yep. I think it's time for the US to take a break from trying to "save the world". Our country and infrastructure are falling apart because we are spending so much money overseas trying to buy goodwill. A lot of the countries we "help" take our money and call us fools.

I totally agree-----unless you wanted to drop the big one on them both and claim the oil. NO--- I'm not serious.

 

[bbsam]

I totally agree-----unless you wanted to drop the big one on them both and claim the oil. NO--- I'm not serious.

At current oil prices, securing the oil would be a money losing proposition.

 

[rod]

At current oil prices, securing the oil would be a money losing proposition.

Do you really expect prices to remain low? I don't. Its about time for a couple of big refineries to "shut down for maintenance" as if they need an excuse.

 

[bbsam]

Do you really expect prices to remain low? I don't. Its about time for a couple of big refineries to "shut down for maintenance" as if they need an excuse.

Yes I do. There is zero incentive for any oil producing countries to cut back.

 

[Catatonic]

Leading from behind = bad.

Obama's used that approach rather well.

 

[Brownslave688]

At current oil prices, securing the oil would be a money losing proposition.

Not their oil.


That is practically oozing out of the ground. Costs very little to extract.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Not their oil.


That is practically oozing out of the ground. Costs very little to extract.

What right would we have to go in and take that oil? Sounds like imperialism to me and we would be just like Russia at that point.

 

[Brownslave688]

What right would we have to go in and take that oil? Sounds like imperialism to me and we would be just like Russia at that point.

I never said we had any right. Just that their cost of production per barrel is very low.

 

[bbsam]

Not their oil.


That is practically oozing out of the ground. Costs very little to extract.

Costs a whole lot to send in an occupying force. Has history taught you nothing?

 

[Babagounj]

In case no one noticed the 40 years ban on exporting oil from the USA was just recently lifted .
The first shipment has already left from Texas .
We don't need their oil , if we have enough to export .

 

[The Other Side]

In case no one noticed the 40 years ban on exporting oil from the USA was just recently lifted .
The first shipment has already left from Texas .
We don't need their oil , if we have enough to export .

I wished you really took the time to understand the oil market and how prices at home are affected. Of course, when prices back at the pump reach 5 bucks youll pitch a bitch and blame the current president,

Geez.

TOS.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Do you really expect prices to remain low? I don't. Its about time for a couple of big refineries to "shut down for maintenance" as if they need an excuse.

Yes I do. There is zero incentive for any oil producing countries to cut back.

Rod would be right if prices were based solely on our production but the Middle East has already said that they will be increasing production so I fully expect prices to continue to drop for quite some time.

 

[Indecisi0n]

Leading from behind = bad.

Not always...