What do you consider extra work?Where specifically in the new contract does it say that full timers have seniority over part timers as far as extra work goes?
Does a FT 22.3 have more seniority than a pt bid air driver when it comes to extra work?
Depends on the work involved.Where specifically in the new contract does it say that full timers have seniority over part timers as far as extra work goes?
Does a FT 22.3 have more seniority than a pt bid air driver when it comes to extra work?
In The Southern it’s defined this way.What do you consider extra work?
Not exactly what I was asking. I'm curious what he defines as extra work, not what the contract says about who gets it.Depends on the work involved.
In The Southern it’s defined this way.
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But I've seen plenty of shenanigans concerning the “present and available” part.
That’s the problem. Should be based solely on contract language that is crystal clear and that covers all the bases. But it often isn’t and the language isn’t so rock solid everywhere. Status quo seems to rule over contract language.Not exactly what I was asking. I'm curious what he defines as extra work, not what the contract says about who gets it.
Lots of people think stuff is extra work when it's not. So just want to make sure what he wants to do is actually extra work.
Yes but in my building they use AI to cut runs. Basically if I’m not assigned an air run then I can’t touch any air that’s left in building or that comes in on a late plane. A couple weeks ago a bunch of perishables got left in buildingDepends on the work involved.
In The Southern it’s defined this way.
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But I've seen plenty of shenanigans concerning the “present and available” part.
That's usually the case in most areas. Not sure where it says it in the contract or where you're located.Where specifically in the new contract does it say that full timers have seniority over part timers as far as extra work goes?
Does a FT 22.3 have more seniority than a pt bid air driver when it comes to extra work?
Since this involves Art 40 I am not sure if my case applies, but I won a grievance against a FT car washer when he was called in on a Holiday for extra work and not me.That's usually the case in most areas. Not sure where it says it in the contract or where you're located.
Where I'm at even the lowest seniority 22.3 has seniority over a part timer, even if said part timer has more yearsSince this involves Art 40 I am not sure if my case applies, but I won a grievance against a FT car washer when he was called in on a Holiday for extra work and not me.
Maybe where you are but not in the Central Region. Extra work is awarded by seniority first inside the classification and then to everyone by seniority. Company seniority.Where I'm at even the lowest seniority 22.3 has seniority over a part timer, even if said part timer has more years
Maybe where you are but not in the Central Region. Extra work is awarded by seniority first inside the classification and then to everyone by seniority. Company seniority.
Maybe that can be changed in the next contract.Where I'm at even the lowest seniority 22.3 has seniority over a part timer, even if said part timer has more years
Not here.Maybe that can be changed in the next contract.
FFF that BS. No one wants some off the street limp D loser with 6 months trumping a 5 year PTer.Not here.
Never.
Ever.
Ever.
Full time trumps part time.
Must be a southern thing.Not here.
Never.
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Ever.
Full time trumps part time.
One thing I've learned browsing and chatting here and on Facebook (back when i still had it) is that the contracts and mindsets behind them are drastically different from region to region. But I personally hate how company seniority is taken for granted. Particularly in certain areas. I wish it mattered more in certain situations. Not all. But where it makes sense.FFF that BS. No one wants some off the street limp D loser with 6 months trumping a 5 year PTer.
Now I know why you East Coast losers need our money for your pension... you hate PTers.
NJ excluded of course.
I wish it mattered more in certain situations. Not all. But where it makes sense.
“UPS” and “making sense” rarely are used in the same sentence.One thing I've learned browsing and chatting here and on Facebook (back when i still had it) is that the contracts and mindsets behind them are drastically different from region to region. But I personally hate how company seniority is taken for granted. Particularly in certain areas. I wish it mattered more in certain situations. Not all. But where it makes sense.
Who would be the final arbiter of "what made sense" when applying seniority ?
The members for starters. Meaning.....I'd prefer it be based on actual contract language that leaves no room for interpretation instead of the current language that allows for local interpretations that vary from local to local and region to region. That would mean we'd have to make sure the language is added (where ever needed) to our applicable supplements.“UPS” and “making sense” rarely are used in the same sentence.