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Should union membership be optional?
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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 541133" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>The Other Side;</p><p> </p><p>Perhaps you don't realize it, but I'm sure there are many employees who would like nothing better than to negotiate their own contract. In saying that, I'm recognizing that people tend to forget that union contracts are negotiated with [at best] the "average" worker in mind...and the above average, who would likely receive more if he was allowed to negotiate on his own, is given short-shrift by the union. [Correspondingly, of course, the weak employee are protected - or, if truth be told, overly-protected - when the union negotiates for them, so I can readily understand why there are so many who fear the consequences of negotiating on their own] </p><p> </p><p>I agree in part with your seniority statement, however, in that I don't believe those who negotiate their own contracts should be the beneficiaries of union seniority lists. On the other hand, I don't think they should be bound by them, either. If they are deemed to be the better employee for the job - regardless of seniority - then they should get it. That, of course, goes against organized labor's philosophy of considering each worker of equal value.....a philosphy which we're seeing the [bitter] fruits of already in the organized auto, steel, and transportation industries.</p><p> </p><p>All that said, there's a group - the p/t'ers - at UPS, who have absolutely been killed by being under the union umbrella......especially the ambitious ones. There's not a doubt in my mind that they would be making much more in compensation WITHOUT union representation, albeit being a higher class of employee than the ones hired now who are waiting around for years to be promoted to full time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 541133, member: 16651"] The Other Side; Perhaps you don't realize it, but I'm sure there are many employees who would like nothing better than to negotiate their own contract. In saying that, I'm recognizing that people tend to forget that union contracts are negotiated with [at best] the "average" worker in mind...and the above average, who would likely receive more if he was allowed to negotiate on his own, is given short-shrift by the union. [Correspondingly, of course, the weak employee are protected - or, if truth be told, overly-protected - when the union negotiates for them, so I can readily understand why there are so many who fear the consequences of negotiating on their own] I agree in part with your seniority statement, however, in that I don't believe those who negotiate their own contracts should be the beneficiaries of union seniority lists. On the other hand, I don't think they should be bound by them, either. If they are deemed to be the better employee for the job - regardless of seniority - then they should get it. That, of course, goes against organized labor's philosophy of considering each worker of equal value.....a philosphy which we're seeing the [bitter] fruits of already in the organized auto, steel, and transportation industries. All that said, there's a group - the p/t'ers - at UPS, who have absolutely been killed by being under the union umbrella......especially the ambitious ones. There's not a doubt in my mind that they would be making much more in compensation WITHOUT union representation, albeit being a higher class of employee than the ones hired now who are waiting around for years to be promoted to full time. [/QUOTE]
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