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<blockquote data-quote="Overpaid Union Thug" data-source="post: 2082349" data-attributes="member: 198"><p>Unions are declining in just about every state. I could clearly see it in the animation. It's quicker in the RTW states but still apparent just about everywhere else.</p><p></p><p>There are also some things that are ignored (which helps the narrative that RTW is the cause of union decline instead of it just being what allows the inevitable to happen on its own) such as how many of those union members in the non RTW states are in government service unions. Remember.......government unions typically don't represent members that produce anything and/or the people they work for don't have to worry about a couple of pesky little things called profit and productivity.</p><p></p><p>The fact is that many, not all, unions are failing because they have outlived their usefulness and aren't necessary anymore. UPS is becoming a rare example of a labor environment that still needs a union. RTW just allows the inevitable to happen faster and only in fields where unions aren't needed or wanted.</p><p></p><p>The percentages in the non RTW states on that map would be closer to RTW states if government unions weren't factored in. As they shouldn't be.</p><p></p><p>RTW isn't busting unions. Workers are. Yes, it's easier with RTW. But if enough of the employees want to disassociate themselves and their jobs from the unions then that obviously means those unions aren't needed anymore. If the entire country was RTW then eventually the only unions left standing (minus government unions) would be those that are still relevant.</p><p></p><p>In RTW states when a union employee is fired, retired, quits their replacements have to be convinced that it's in their best interest to join the union. In non RTW states if someone is fired, retired, or quits they are replaced by a fresh new dues paying member. Therefore....that interest is forcefully and artificially replaced (per law) whether the interest is really there or not. <strong><em><u><span style="color: #0080ff">If not being in a RTW state is all that's holding a union together then maybe they deserve to fail.</span></u></em></strong> I hope ours never does. UPS would be ten times worse than many already think it is now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Overpaid Union Thug, post: 2082349, member: 198"] Unions are declining in just about every state. I could clearly see it in the animation. It's quicker in the RTW states but still apparent just about everywhere else. There are also some things that are ignored (which helps the narrative that RTW is the cause of union decline instead of it just being what allows the inevitable to happen on its own) such as how many of those union members in the non RTW states are in government service unions. Remember.......government unions typically don't represent members that produce anything and/or the people they work for don't have to worry about a couple of pesky little things called profit and productivity. The fact is that many, not all, unions are failing because they have outlived their usefulness and aren't necessary anymore. UPS is becoming a rare example of a labor environment that still needs a union. RTW just allows the inevitable to happen faster and only in fields where unions aren't needed or wanted. The percentages in the non RTW states on that map would be closer to RTW states if government unions weren't factored in. As they shouldn't be. RTW isn't busting unions. Workers are. Yes, it's easier with RTW. But if enough of the employees want to disassociate themselves and their jobs from the unions then that obviously means those unions aren't needed anymore. If the entire country was RTW then eventually the only unions left standing (minus government unions) would be those that are still relevant. In RTW states when a union employee is fired, retired, quits their replacements have to be convinced that it's in their best interest to join the union. In non RTW states if someone is fired, retired, or quits they are replaced by a fresh new dues paying member. Therefore....that interest is forcefully and artificially replaced (per law) whether the interest is really there or not. [B][I][U][COLOR=#0080ff]If not being in a RTW state is all that's holding a union together then maybe they deserve to fail.[/COLOR][/U][/I][/B] I hope ours never does. UPS would be ten times worse than many already think it is now. [/QUOTE]
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