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<blockquote data-quote="DiligentUPSer" data-source="post: 1135693" data-attributes="member: 43544"><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This comes more-so as a perspective from a veteran part-timer:</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>P</strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>ROS</strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>:</strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px">- $1.00 per hour skilled pay is being maint<span style="font-size: 12px">ained ( With current technolo<span style="font-size: 12px">g<span style="font-size: 12px">y, UPS has been pushing to eliminate this for some time)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span>- No health insurance premi<span style="font-size: 12px">ums <span style="font-size: 12px">yet (<span style="font-size: 12px">$ <span style="font-size: 12px">3<span style="font-size: 12px">0/60/90 per week </span></span></span>would have been a huge blow to part<span style="font-size: 12px">-</span>timers)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px">- 2,350 new 22.3 jobs. (of course this comes with a huge *<span style="font-size: 12px">asterisk<span style="font-size: 12px">. We'll see what happens<span style="font-size: 12px">)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>CONS:</strong></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>1.</strong> </span>No catch-up raise (Well of course not. <span style="font-size: 12px">The veteran PTers are</span> the employees that UPS wants to get rid of , so they're not going to provide us <span style="font-size: 12px">with any additional incentives<span style="font-size: 12px">. T</span></span>hey would much prefer for us to be gone so they can <span style="font-size: 12px">ride staffs primarily consist<span style="font-size: 12px">ing of <span style="font-size: 12px">newbies who are making the starting rate and not eligible for paid vacations, pension, or insurance)</span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">2. </span></strong>4 year progression once becoming full-time, compared to 3 years i<span style="font-size: 12px">n the current contract, and 2 years in the previous contract. This is <span style="font-size: 12px">as close as you can get to a two-tiered wage system</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">3. </span></strong>If I am understanding this correctly, this means our raises could be taken away and put into the healthcare or pension fund: </span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">Article 34, Section 4, Subdivision 1:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 10px">"Any portion of any GWI may be re-allocated as an increased contribution </span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 10px">to a Teamster Pension or Health &Welfare Fund. The re-allocation shall apply to all employees in a Supplement, Rider or Addendum, as applicable, provided all of the affected employees (full or part-time, if applicable) are covered by the same Pension or Health & Welfare Fund."</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(The preceding would be a huge blow to a part-timer)</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">4. </span></strong>Union administered healthcare plan. They can do whatever they want with it<span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px">, whenever they want<span style="font-size: 12px">...</span></span>as evidenced by the following Memorandum of Understanding contained within the<span style="font-size: 12px"> contract:</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'monospace'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">"Nothing within this Memorandum of Understanding shall affect the Central States Health & Welfare Trustee’s right to modify benefit levels<span style="font-size: 12px">."</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-family: 'monospace'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(even if<span style="font-size: 12px"> agreed upon benefit levels <span style="font-size: 12px">do not get<span style="font-size: 12px"> significantly modified within the life of the contract</span>, what's to say un<span style="font-size: 12px">ion du<span style="font-size: 12px">es don't sk<span style="font-size: 12px">yrocket if healt<span style="font-size: 12px">hcare bec<span style="font-size: 12px">omes more expensive than anticipated?)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span> </span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"><strong><span style="font-size: 12px">5. </span></strong>Decreased insurance coverage compared to current contract, which includes:</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">~<span style="font-size: 12px"> D</span>eductibles that increase each year of the contract (what's that going to mean for the 2018 contract? This is just getting the ball rolling</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">~ 80% coverage on diagnostics compared to 90% in the current contract and 100% in the 2002-2007 contract</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">~ 80% coverage on ER visits compared to current $25 co-pay</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">~ Decreased prescription coverage</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">~ Decreased vision coverage</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">~ Annual max of $1,500 on dental work compared to no max currently</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'">(All of this adds up for a part-timer. Whatwe do receive of the scheduled general wage increases<span style="font-size: 12px">, </span>will likely go into ext<span style="font-size: 12px">ra healthcare expenses)</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman'"> <span style="font-size: 12px">Final note: </span>We are going down the wrong path with concessions every contract and part-timers are usually the sacrificial lambs. <span style="font-size: 12px">Concessions in every contract in light of record profits for the company </span>doesn't bode well for the distant future if you're in your 20's, 30's, or 40's and want to make UPS a career.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'serif'"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
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