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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 973460" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>Inthegame;</p><p></p><p>If you'll read my post again, what I wrote was.....</p><p></p><p>"As for the $6 billion itself, one can't help but think that, as the withdrawal liability UPS paid essentially for OTHER companies' employees, it represented a real shafting for UPS Teamsters...to the tune of about $133,000 OFF of each...."</p><p></p><p>Don't divide $100 million by 42,000, but rather divide ****$6 BILLION **** (and I used 45,000 instead of 42,000; using your figure, the amount would be higher still!!!)</p><p></p><p>That's all money that could have gone to UPS Teamsters' pension. Instead, it went toward propping-up a declining entity that's STILL flirting with failure today.</p><p></p><p>Remember, this is a UPS board; it's not the company's concern as "how healthy would that plan have been for many more Teamsters than the minority of UPS participants"...and it should NOT have been a concern for those Teamster officials who claimed to be bargaining on the behalf of ALL the members of the ***UPS bargaining unit**** (not the Teamsters at large nor, for that matter, just Teamsters within the bargaining unit...but rather the ENTIRE bargaining unit!). The fact is that the Teamsters themselves "screwed the pooch" in terms of Central States by driving all the contributing employers out of business. Why should UPS - and UPS employees - be punished for what they had nothing to do with?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, in this case, "yes", the UPS Teamsters would have been MUCH better off if they had just "rolled over" for the initial UPS proposal....instead of being "ROLLED-over" by the eventual concession proposed by the union that led to their betrayal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 973460, member: 16651"] Inthegame; If you'll read my post again, what I wrote was..... "As for the $6 billion itself, one can't help but think that, as the withdrawal liability UPS paid essentially for OTHER companies' employees, it represented a real shafting for UPS Teamsters...to the tune of about $133,000 OFF of each...." Don't divide $100 million by 42,000, but rather divide ****$6 BILLION **** (and I used 45,000 instead of 42,000; using your figure, the amount would be higher still!!!) That's all money that could have gone to UPS Teamsters' pension. Instead, it went toward propping-up a declining entity that's STILL flirting with failure today. Remember, this is a UPS board; it's not the company's concern as "how healthy would that plan have been for many more Teamsters than the minority of UPS participants"...and it should NOT have been a concern for those Teamster officials who claimed to be bargaining on the behalf of ALL the members of the ***UPS bargaining unit**** (not the Teamsters at large nor, for that matter, just Teamsters within the bargaining unit...but rather the ENTIRE bargaining unit!). The fact is that the Teamsters themselves "screwed the pooch" in terms of Central States by driving all the contributing employers out of business. Why should UPS - and UPS employees - be punished for what they had nothing to do with? Anyway, in this case, "yes", the UPS Teamsters would have been MUCH better off if they had just "rolled over" for the initial UPS proposal....instead of being "ROLLED-over" by the eventual concession proposed by the union that led to their betrayal. [/QUOTE]
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