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<blockquote data-quote="stink219" data-source="post: 1129024" data-attributes="member: 29852"><p>Read brown cafe. I've been informing members with zero spin since day one. I posted the actual figures in other posts. TDU has a "hate the current" agenda to satisfy. When it comes down to it, read your contract and assimilate for yourself to make an educated decision. TDU knows that with 250,000 people at UPS, not everyone can be happy with all aspects of a contract. This is TDU fuel. As for TDU themselves, I don't hate them because they give information, albeit wrong information initially to get a jump on it. I have a serious problem with their leadership. We voted on a Teamster president and he won. TDUers do not get that choice in Ken P. Paff actually gives true socialist a bad name. His form of socialism is that for communism. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Federal Bureau of Investigations Los Angeles, California November 4, 1975 </p><p></p><p>International Socialist </p><p></p><p>This Investigation is based on information which indicates that the International SOCIALIST (infra) IS ENGAGED IN ACTIVITIES WHICH COULD INVOLVE A VIOLATION OF TITLE 18, U.S.code Section 2383 ( Rebellion or Insrrection), 2384 (Seditious Conspiracy), 2385 (Advocating Overthrow of the Government), or title 50, U.S. Code, Sections 781-798 ( International Security Act of 1950). </p><p></p><p>The October 1969 issue of the " International Socialist" lists the following persons as connected with the paper, Editor: Kit Lyons Editorial Board: Wayne Collins Hal Draper Loren Goldner Jack Hursh Arthur Lipow David McCullough Marilyn Morehead Kenneth Paff </p><p></p><p>Their goal was to create chaos and hardship for workers so they would " rebel " and join them in overthrowing the government. </p><p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>New York Times, </p><p>Sunday November 26, 1978. </p><p></p><p>Ken P, a founder of the rebel group and now paid organizer, concede that they belong to a small group, not a political party, known as the International Socialist, and they believe socialism is coming some day to America.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stink219, post: 1129024, member: 29852"] Read brown cafe. I've been informing members with zero spin since day one. I posted the actual figures in other posts. TDU has a "hate the current" agenda to satisfy. When it comes down to it, read your contract and assimilate for yourself to make an educated decision. TDU knows that with 250,000 people at UPS, not everyone can be happy with all aspects of a contract. This is TDU fuel. As for TDU themselves, I don't hate them because they give information, albeit wrong information initially to get a jump on it. I have a serious problem with their leadership. We voted on a Teamster president and he won. TDUers do not get that choice in Ken P. Paff actually gives true socialist a bad name. His form of socialism is that for communism. Federal Bureau of Investigations Los Angeles, California November 4, 1975 International Socialist This Investigation is based on information which indicates that the International SOCIALIST (infra) IS ENGAGED IN ACTIVITIES WHICH COULD INVOLVE A VIOLATION OF TITLE 18, U.S.code Section 2383 ( Rebellion or Insrrection), 2384 (Seditious Conspiracy), 2385 (Advocating Overthrow of the Government), or title 50, U.S. Code, Sections 781-798 ( International Security Act of 1950). The October 1969 issue of the " International Socialist" lists the following persons as connected with the paper, Editor: Kit Lyons Editorial Board: Wayne Collins Hal Draper Loren Goldner Jack Hursh Arthur Lipow David McCullough Marilyn Morehead Kenneth Paff Their goal was to create chaos and hardship for workers so they would " rebel " and join them in overthrowing the government. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- New York Times, Sunday November 26, 1978. Ken P, a founder of the rebel group and now paid organizer, concede that they belong to a small group, not a political party, known as the International Socialist, and they believe socialism is coming some day to America. [/QUOTE]
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