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<blockquote data-quote="sortaisle" data-source="post: 1353865" data-attributes="member: 17605"><p>The us auto industry took itself out. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and hell even Volkswagen were putting out a far superior product. GM and Ford were putting out the exact same POS vehicles across all their makes and models and the only real difference was in the name. Maybe a touch larger bore in the cylinder walls. You can throw the airlines in there as well. It's naive to blame the unions for the trouble when there was high inflation, the oil crisis of the 70's, reduced productivity, low economic growth, and piss poor expectations from investors and owner/managers. I have zero issue with the unions being part of the problem, but to base your argument that the unions were the main culprit is mind boggling. The unions are the perfect fall guy for companies to slash their costs. The odd thing is, unions and company managers used to work together to keep each other from getting too big. Somehow an us vs. them mentality came to the forefront. You can't honestly say that UPS wouldn't <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> on their employees the moment the union was voted out...look at how they treat their management.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sortaisle, post: 1353865, member: 17605"] The us auto industry took itself out. Honda, Toyota, Nissan, and hell even Volkswagen were putting out a far superior product. GM and Ford were putting out the exact same POS vehicles across all their makes and models and the only real difference was in the name. Maybe a touch larger bore in the cylinder walls. You can throw the airlines in there as well. It's naive to blame the unions for the trouble when there was high inflation, the oil crisis of the 70's, reduced productivity, low economic growth, and piss poor expectations from investors and owner/managers. I have zero issue with the unions being part of the problem, but to base your argument that the unions were the main culprit is mind boggling. The unions are the perfect fall guy for companies to slash their costs. The odd thing is, unions and company managers used to work together to keep each other from getting too big. Somehow an us vs. them mentality came to the forefront. You can't honestly say that UPS wouldn't :censored: on their employees the moment the union was voted out...look at how they treat their management. [/QUOTE]
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