KOG72
I’m full of it
I have thought about it but as soon as I do it I would need them.Opt out!
I have thought about it but as soon as I do it I would need them.Opt out!
They dont fear us at all. Maybe they will fear loss of income?I have thought about it but as soon as I do it I would need them.
“The national agreement was rejected by approximately 24% of the eligible membership. No union can successfully conduct a strike with the support of only 24% of the bargaining unit,” she said in an email Tuesday.
Ask @hellfire.... my previous opinion on that subject.
What's "real" seniority ?
2 or 3 years, I would say. You know what I am getting at, so just stop, you look stupid.
They did.
Because, members are to lazy to vote.... the IBT is to blame ?
NOPE, Then why was the last contract not pushed to pass????
Ask TDU.
They were instrumental in having it "inserted" into the IBT constitution.
Like I previously stated;
The power was in the hands of the members by voting.
But, they had butter fingers.... and dropped the ball.
Don't cry about it now.
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How many part timers does freight have?UPS Freight has only worked under 2 contracts.... and on their 3rd one
they have managed vote it down with a majority vote.
Exactly!How many part timers does freight have?
Same can be said to some of those highly intelligent management einstiens also.The point remains that almost any idiot can drive a truck and do customer service, and as you know some drivers are dumb as rocks and not very good with people and still have jobs.
Legally they still have to represent you.I have thought about it but as soon as I do it I would need them.
Only RTW can opt out, however, one can request that their union dues be redirected to a religious organization of their choice.
So the leadership can ignore its memberships voting no, but not your dues.
That ain't going to happen. I think it would be easier for UPS Teamsters to go independent.If you are not in a RTW state, you can petition to deauthorize the union. Doing so will likely get you kicked out of the union. But, if the vote to deauthorize went through, you could opt out.
A non-vote is a "I don't care" vote, a "whatever you decide is ok with me" vote.Thirty thousand more UPSers voted on the contract in 2018 than five years ago—an increase in voter participation of nearly 50%
The real number I want to see is how many eligible voters there were in 2013 and how many in 2018, plus how many voted. Another number to look at is how many in each contract had under 1 year with UPS.
Only RTW can opt out, however, one can request that their union dues be redirected to a religious organization of their choice.
Well, those that did decide said no. For our leadership to ignore that is wrong to the core!
Bug, isn't the word "may" in there?Never heard of such a thing.
They followed the IBT Constitution.
Remember, the 50% 2/3 provision that TDU and Ron Carey helped implement.
Even with strike authorization (a pitiful turn out) the writing was on the wall.
It's hard for me to grasp, why people don't understand that.
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Bug, isn't the word "may" in there?
What section is that from Buggie?Nope.
"(2) If less than half of the eligible members cast valid ballots, then a two thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall be required to reject such final offer and to authorize a strike. The failure of such membership to reject the final offer and to authorize a strike as herein provided shall require the negotiating committee to accept such final offer or such additional provisions as can be negotiated by it."
https://teamster.filecamp.com/0/teamster/binary/25np-re7bjk5k.pdf
And, that's exactly what they are doing.
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What section is that from Buggie?
There is no requirement to ratify, as is clearly stated in that section
The NNC wants to pick and choose when they apply the 50% 2/3 rule, but then say they are bound by the constitution to do something the constitution clearly does not require them to do under the circumstances.
I'm glad, you are such an expert on the IBT constitution.
Ask TDU.
Why they were in support of that provision.... back in 1987.