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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 719816" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: blue">Agreed RPS was in business and struggling. Their only hope was to play up our labor troubles at contract time to get a few packages. I think most people here remember that RPS lost the business back to us as quickly as they gained it.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">The advent of fdx into ground may have been inevitable. I think the 97 stike probably hastened their entry. Without the strike it may have been years before fdx made the move.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">my point being that ups would have grown a lot more and created a lot more teamster jobs before fdx eventually started moving into the ground business. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">I fully understand that you folks consider 97 a great victory. I honestly think the gains are minimal if at all. You look at the teamster jobs lost, the teamster revenue lost as a result. Look at the pension contributions lost from those jobs.</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">then look at the eventual buyout of the Central states pension plan the very reason carey supposedly struck and you have to wonder what the teamsters really gained?</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">combo jobs? Lower paying full time jobs? The combo job was what the tduers were supposedly apposed to. Here again you have another job where people do the same work as full time insiders yet make less. </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">sub contracting? Played up but actually got worse immediately after 97. this is one that actually got better in the past five years. I almost never see contractors pulling loads anymore where I frequently did between 97 and 2002.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">So the question in my mind is how many more packages would ups have and how many more full time teamster jobs would they have if the 97 strike had not happened. My guess about 3 to five million.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 719816, member: 1912"] [COLOR=blue]Agreed RPS was in business and struggling. Their only hope was to play up our labor troubles at contract time to get a few packages. I think most people here remember that RPS lost the business back to us as quickly as they gained it.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]The advent of fdx into ground may have been inevitable. I think the 97 stike probably hastened their entry. Without the strike it may have been years before fdx made the move.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]my point being that ups would have grown a lot more and created a lot more teamster jobs before fdx eventually started moving into the ground business. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]I fully understand that you folks consider 97 a great victory. I honestly think the gains are minimal if at all. You look at the teamster jobs lost, the teamster revenue lost as a result. Look at the pension contributions lost from those jobs.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]then look at the eventual buyout of the Central states pension plan the very reason carey supposedly struck and you have to wonder what the teamsters really gained?[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]combo jobs? Lower paying full time jobs? The combo job was what the tduers were supposedly apposed to. Here again you have another job where people do the same work as full time insiders yet make less. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]sub contracting? Played up but actually got worse immediately after 97. this is one that actually got better in the past five years. I almost never see contractors pulling loads anymore where I frequently did between 97 and 2002.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]So the question in my mind is how many more packages would ups have and how many more full time teamster jobs would they have if the 97 strike had not happened. My guess about 3 to five million.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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