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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 777675" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Going even further to your point, Schramm Inc. who was briefly mentioned in the WSJ link posted by Tony along with CenterRock drill has itself a very interesting <a href="http://courses.wcupa.edu/jones/his480/reports/schramm.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">100 year history </span></a><span style="color: red"><span style="color: #000000">in which after WW1 was able to grow as a result of gov't contracts via the US military in Europe. Not that Schramm is by any stretch alone but to call what we have today a <a href="http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/FreeMarket.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">free market</span></a> leaves one to wonder how some people define the term free?</span></span></p><p> </p><p>But then having a skewed idea of what a free market is should come as no surprise when some so-called experts of what is is and <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/4399" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">how to measure</span></a> have such a questionable understanding themselves.</p><p> </p><p>And let's not even bring up how the capitalist system uses govt's <a href="http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/eminent_domain_bigboxes_wallst.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">eminent domain</span></a> powers to further it's own "free market" interests. Once you learn about <a href="http://mises.org/books/Central_planning_and_neomercantilism_shoeck.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Central Planning and NeoMercantilism</span></a>, you start to understand that capitalism and socialism are more partners in crime than hardnosed opponents!</p><p> </p><p>BTW: On the evening the first miners came to the surface I got home from work just as the 2nd miner was starting to come to the surface. The wife and I stayed up till around 3:30 am watching live coverage on TV and very thankful as each miner came out. After the 2nd miner surfaced and waiting through the turnaround, they interviewed the head drill operator from America who punched the hole. I found it interesting to the current point under discussion that this man thanked all parties involved for allowing him to leave Aghanistan where he was drilling wells (I assumed for water) and come to Chile to take part in the rescue. In that Aghanistan is occupied turf and a distant welfare state of Washington DC., again it's the state who made all things possible if you will. Would the guy been working at all (in business) without the State contract? And in Chile, let's not forget the state owned Copper Mining giant Codelco and how they may have played in all of this. Oddly enough, the <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">CIA World Facts Book</span></a> describes Chile as a market oriented economy as so it does for the United States. Therefore if the US is free market, then so is Chile? Both described as market economies! Funny that a market economy also entertains a state owned mining company who controls a huge amount of the country's copper market. </p><p> </p><p>Also it should be noted that Pinochet was installed (1973') with US help to counter "the socialists" who took power in 1970' and who did such things as nationalize foreign owned copper mining companies into what is/became the State owned <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codelco" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Codelco</span></a>, yet these so-called friendly US power players, friends of the free market, didn't abolish this socialist beast and instead it remained even unto this day. And you think Obamacare will be abolished when the republicans take over?</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 777675, member: 2189"] Going even further to your point, Schramm Inc. who was briefly mentioned in the WSJ link posted by Tony along with CenterRock drill has itself a very interesting [URL="http://courses.wcupa.edu/jones/his480/reports/schramm.htm"][COLOR=red]100 year history [/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red][COLOR=#000000]in which after WW1 was able to grow as a result of gov't contracts via the US military in Europe. Not that Schramm is by any stretch alone but to call what we have today a [URL="http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/FreeMarket.html"][COLOR=red]free market[/COLOR][/URL] leaves one to wonder how some people define the term free?[/COLOR][/COLOR] But then having a skewed idea of what a free market is should come as no surprise when some so-called experts of what is is and [URL="http://c4ss.org/content/4399"][COLOR=red]how to measure[/COLOR][/URL] have such a questionable understanding themselves. And let's not even bring up how the capitalist system uses govt's [URL="http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/articles_2004/eminent_domain_bigboxes_wallst.html"][COLOR=red]eminent domain[/COLOR][/URL] powers to further it's own "free market" interests. Once you learn about [URL="http://mises.org/books/Central_planning_and_neomercantilism_shoeck.pdf"][COLOR=red]Central Planning and NeoMercantilism[/COLOR][/URL], you start to understand that capitalism and socialism are more partners in crime than hardnosed opponents! BTW: On the evening the first miners came to the surface I got home from work just as the 2nd miner was starting to come to the surface. The wife and I stayed up till around 3:30 am watching live coverage on TV and very thankful as each miner came out. After the 2nd miner surfaced and waiting through the turnaround, they interviewed the head drill operator from America who punched the hole. I found it interesting to the current point under discussion that this man thanked all parties involved for allowing him to leave Aghanistan where he was drilling wells (I assumed for water) and come to Chile to take part in the rescue. In that Aghanistan is occupied turf and a distant welfare state of Washington DC., again it's the state who made all things possible if you will. Would the guy been working at all (in business) without the State contract? And in Chile, let's not forget the state owned Copper Mining giant Codelco and how they may have played in all of this. Oddly enough, the [URL="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/"][COLOR=red]CIA World Facts Book[/COLOR][/URL] describes Chile as a market oriented economy as so it does for the United States. Therefore if the US is free market, then so is Chile? Both described as market economies! Funny that a market economy also entertains a state owned mining company who controls a huge amount of the country's copper market. Also it should be noted that Pinochet was installed (1973') with US help to counter "the socialists" who took power in 1970' and who did such things as nationalize foreign owned copper mining companies into what is/became the State owned [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codelco"][COLOR=red]Codelco[/COLOR][/URL], yet these so-called friendly US power players, friends of the free market, didn't abolish this socialist beast and instead it remained even unto this day. And you think Obamacare will be abolished when the republicans take over? :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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