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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 873774" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>True but many say America is secular but we really aren't. Let an atheist stand up, even run for public office and see how fast they get shouted down. Our society stills wants a religious connection to a great sky god and even our own christian fundamentalism can play well come election time. But we do seem for the moment to tolerate other religions and thus my point in some of these middle eastern states. They did tolerate "some" other faiths, mostly christian varieties but in the case of Libya, some greek orthodox churches in the fall of the Qaddafi regime were ransacked and damaged. This was not allowed under Qaddafi and even Saddam had christians in positions of power. </p><p></p><p>Even radical Iran as of just a couple of years ago had a jew elected to it's Parliament representing an Iranian jewish community. Until Zionism and fundamentalist Islam began their death dance, Iran had the largest and most viable jewish community in the Middle East and if you understand your Persian history and Cyrus the Great, you'll know why. Even the old testament in the hebrew called Cyrus "the annointed" which is where we get the greek "christos" or messiah! Yep, the old testament calls the great Persian king Cyrus, a messiah! But then there have been many messiahs if you read the good book!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p></p><p>In that sense I call it secular but yes in the truer sense of the word, not even America IMO is truly secular.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 873774, member: 2189"] True but many say America is secular but we really aren't. Let an atheist stand up, even run for public office and see how fast they get shouted down. Our society stills wants a religious connection to a great sky god and even our own christian fundamentalism can play well come election time. But we do seem for the moment to tolerate other religions and thus my point in some of these middle eastern states. They did tolerate "some" other faiths, mostly christian varieties but in the case of Libya, some greek orthodox churches in the fall of the Qaddafi regime were ransacked and damaged. This was not allowed under Qaddafi and even Saddam had christians in positions of power. Even radical Iran as of just a couple of years ago had a jew elected to it's Parliament representing an Iranian jewish community. Until Zionism and fundamentalist Islam began their death dance, Iran had the largest and most viable jewish community in the Middle East and if you understand your Persian history and Cyrus the Great, you'll know why. Even the old testament in the hebrew called Cyrus "the annointed" which is where we get the greek "christos" or messiah! Yep, the old testament calls the great Persian king Cyrus, a messiah! But then there have been many messiahs if you read the good book! :wink2: In that sense I call it secular but yes in the truer sense of the word, not even America IMO is truly secular. [/QUOTE]
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