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<blockquote data-quote="G lost my vote" data-source="post: 1423247" data-attributes="member: 55212"><p>So G slate has asked me for my vote, actually I have been offered a position as a BA if he wins this election. G only has asked for my support and to contact my friends and have them vote for his slate. I met with G and friends to discuss plans and to get details of what the offer was and what his slate plans were to win the election. I left that meeting a bit confused and disappointed, but I wanted to have an open mind because I have never done this and never have I been involved in a Union election and maybe I just didn't understand and did not see the big picture... boy was I wrong or maybe I was dead on right and should have followed my gut feeling about how much confusion and disarray G's Slate was. So now I will explain why I will not support G.</p><p></p><p>OK, this is were it gets interesting.</p><p></p><p>First, I don't completely agree with some of the people who he has sorrounded himself with. He has a guy with lots of energy and loyal to G out of Main St hub, but this person could not possibly be the person that would help G be successful in this election. M drives out of Hollywood Center and is constantly expressing how he bashes and talks crap about the current administration to all his fellow co-workers. Some of those co-workers of M's are also friends of mine and of other drivers from my center and they are constantly complaining about how annoying and disrespectful M can be. So Monday I had my friend ask M while I was standing by him to ask him what G would do to improve our Local if he would get in office, he also asked why should he consider giving G his vote? Jose M could not answer that, he replied by saying "GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER AND I WILL HAVE G CALL YOU AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT HIS PLANS" again this person is aggressively pushing for G but there is clearly no plan in place nor does M have a clue of what he is doing or even saying. I have concluded after careful evaluation in the last few weeks that M is clueless and lost and that he only is hurting the G Slate instead of helping G gain some votes at the Main St facility. DoesG have some support at Main St, I believe he does, but does he have a higher percentage of supporters over H? I would not bet the Ranch on that, I firmly believe that H has the majority of the Main St facility. Also, as of recently another supporter for G has came out, I believe he is a combo employee he works in the twi and maybe the night sort, but this guy is a real treat !!! First of all the first time I met him I could not understand a single word that came out of his mouth, but the little I was able to comprehend was just negative trash talking about his business agent, stewards he works with and co-workers that he claimed all supported H, instead of having a plan on how to win some of those people over all I heard from him and M as they campaigned was this " <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> that guy he supports RH don't talk to them they are pieces of <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> that kiss RH ass" OK - SO HOW IN THE <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> ARE WE SUPPOSE TO WIN THESE VOTES OVER WHEN WE PUSH PEOPLE AWAY???? I was very shocked and not impressed with these tactics they practiced. Anyway I will move on to things said about another building and will also touch on my building.</p><p></p><p>San Gabriel Hub. I only know what I am told by the G Slate and by some friends of mine that work in that facility. Also, I have a management person I know there since childhood and I have talked to him on what he observes. So I will start, Richard claims that himself and 2 other stewards have the San Gabe hub locked down and that the whole building will be supporting the G Slate. I have done some research and found out that those predictions made by Richard will have profound disappointment, I have not officially told my friends or anybody that I would support G, so when I kind of fished around the upcoming election to friends that work in San Gabe I found out that Richard does not have the support that he believes to have. My childhood friend/ center manager tells me that there is a steward or two that are very well respected and very liked by the San Gabe members but that both of these stewards and that possibly the majority of the San Gabe stewards support the H Slate. One of my best friends is a staunch Gsupporter, he worships G but he said and I quote "we are in trouble in San Gabe we don't have much support" WOW !! wtf is going on? Personally I don't care for K the San Gabe business rep I had him tell me some things about the contract that did not add up and later I found out that he was just guessing or just <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> me. But thats not the point Im trying to make, G truly believes that he has San Gabe all on his side and believes that 70-80% of the votes from San Gabe will be in his favor. I scratch my head wondering where he gets all this info but now I'm scratching my head thinking is G a leader or a dreamer??</p><p></p><p>My building is a building that has historically supported H and I do not see any change in that during this coming election. I will cut to the chase, Olympic Hub has no G support, it's ludicrous to believe that L would bring Olympic home for G. Richard told me in confidence that he would not have considered L for a Trustee position but that he thought that Hugo could bring him some votes, he stated to me and others of his team that Hugo was a gamble, that he is not the sharps tool in the shed, but that if Hugo can recruit 200 plus people to go to Raider games that he could easily convert those 200 eople into G supporters and get them all to cast their ballots in his favor. ARE YOU <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />SERIOUS????? REALLY??? not only did I start to realize how out of touch G is but also that he is willing to do anything and use anyone to try to win this election. I wondered and could not stop thinking what the true reason was for him offering me a job.?</p><p></p><p>Cerritos - No comment / do not know or have I really heard anything to give my opinion.</p><p></p><p>San Fernando - Same as Cerritos</p><p></p><p>Van Nuys - No comment hear either, actually there is, I have a good friend and know a steward very well and I'm being told that business agent T is a decent representative and that the stewards all support H</p><p></p><p>GV - No comment / do not know or have I really heard anything to give my opinion. N I hear you are out sick and have had some complications, my blessing are with you and wish you get better and well very soon. I know Vince from back in the old S O T O building in city of Vernon.</p><p></p><p>This is how I reached my conclusion, G Slate is a total dysfunctional group. He has surrounded himself with some members that are not respected by their peers and have campaign tactics that surely will not secure votes in their favor. Jose M is a total turn off, this guy is probably Richard's favorite guy of the group, but his campaign tactics, way of talking and approaching members is undesirable and freaky. Richard has also on 2 or 3 different occasions called me the wrong name and in another occasion failed to remember my last name? He has really pushed for my support and has told me how much he respects me and has always valued me. NOW I REALIZE HOW OUT OF TOUCH IS RICHARD AND HOW OUT OF TOUCH I WAS ALSO. The culmination of idiots who only rant negativity and fabrication of stories to further their agenda does not sit well with me and my character. I will not be supporting the G Slate, my main reason is M as a whole and Richard's lack of understanding of reality, his lack of leadership, a real leader would not allow the low classless acts that Jose M displays! RICHARD, M IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF YOU AND WHAT YOUR SLATE REPRESENTS, YOUR FAILURE TO SEE THIS AND TAKE ACTIONS TO CORRECT THIS ONLY LEAVES A SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH AND MAKES ME WONDER WHAT THE FUTURE WOULD HOLD FOR ME AND OUR MEMBERSHIP IF YOU SOMEHOW GOT ELECTED! for the record, will I vote for Ron??? well that I don't know yet, it's not Ron but somebody who works for him misguided me and Ron promised me that he would deal with that agent and nothing ever happen to that agent. I am going to reflect on everything, but I will also say this, I have taken some time already to think of all the options and different scenarios and what I do know is that G is not the best person to lead our Local into the future. I will most likely vote for H, I wish he would fire an agent that I complained about, but the reality is that regardless of my issue with the bully that works for him I finally realized this, I have not once been to a Union meeting, never been a stewards nor have I been involved in Union events or issues, so since I have never been in no shape or form involved with our Local I felt that my lack of experience would not be a wise nor fair for our members of our Local. This will be what I will take with me before making my decision.</p><p></p><p>-Do I go with experience or do I roll the dice?</p><p>-Do I trust G on who will he hire to represent our membership? (that includes myself, he doesn't feel I would be a good Business Agent, he believes I could bring him 100 or so votes)</p><p></p><p>Listen, make a wise decision, but for me it will come to this.</p><p>EXPERIENCE or NO EXPERIENCE??</p><p></p><p>Peace and love to all</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="G lost my vote, post: 1423247, member: 55212"] So G slate has asked me for my vote, actually I have been offered a position as a BA if he wins this election. G only has asked for my support and to contact my friends and have them vote for his slate. I met with G and friends to discuss plans and to get details of what the offer was and what his slate plans were to win the election. I left that meeting a bit confused and disappointed, but I wanted to have an open mind because I have never done this and never have I been involved in a Union election and maybe I just didn't understand and did not see the big picture... boy was I wrong or maybe I was dead on right and should have followed my gut feeling about how much confusion and disarray G's Slate was. So now I will explain why I will not support G. OK, this is were it gets interesting. First, I don't completely agree with some of the people who he has sorrounded himself with. He has a guy with lots of energy and loyal to G out of Main St hub, but this person could not possibly be the person that would help G be successful in this election. M drives out of Hollywood Center and is constantly expressing how he bashes and talks crap about the current administration to all his fellow co-workers. Some of those co-workers of M's are also friends of mine and of other drivers from my center and they are constantly complaining about how annoying and disrespectful M can be. So Monday I had my friend ask M while I was standing by him to ask him what G would do to improve our Local if he would get in office, he also asked why should he consider giving G his vote? Jose M could not answer that, he replied by saying "GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER AND I WILL HAVE G CALL YOU AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT HIS PLANS" again this person is aggressively pushing for G but there is clearly no plan in place nor does M have a clue of what he is doing or even saying. I have concluded after careful evaluation in the last few weeks that M is clueless and lost and that he only is hurting the G Slate instead of helping G gain some votes at the Main St facility. DoesG have some support at Main St, I believe he does, but does he have a higher percentage of supporters over H? I would not bet the Ranch on that, I firmly believe that H has the majority of the Main St facility. Also, as of recently another supporter for G has came out, I believe he is a combo employee he works in the twi and maybe the night sort, but this guy is a real treat !!! First of all the first time I met him I could not understand a single word that came out of his mouth, but the little I was able to comprehend was just negative trash talking about his business agent, stewards he works with and co-workers that he claimed all supported H, instead of having a plan on how to win some of those people over all I heard from him and M as they campaigned was this " :censored: that guy he supports RH don't talk to them they are pieces of :censored: that kiss RH ass" OK - SO HOW IN THE :censored: ARE WE SUPPOSE TO WIN THESE VOTES OVER WHEN WE PUSH PEOPLE AWAY???? I was very shocked and not impressed with these tactics they practiced. Anyway I will move on to things said about another building and will also touch on my building. San Gabriel Hub. I only know what I am told by the G Slate and by some friends of mine that work in that facility. Also, I have a management person I know there since childhood and I have talked to him on what he observes. So I will start, Richard claims that himself and 2 other stewards have the San Gabe hub locked down and that the whole building will be supporting the G Slate. I have done some research and found out that those predictions made by Richard will have profound disappointment, I have not officially told my friends or anybody that I would support G, so when I kind of fished around the upcoming election to friends that work in San Gabe I found out that Richard does not have the support that he believes to have. My childhood friend/ center manager tells me that there is a steward or two that are very well respected and very liked by the San Gabe members but that both of these stewards and that possibly the majority of the San Gabe stewards support the H Slate. One of my best friends is a staunch Gsupporter, he worships G but he said and I quote "we are in trouble in San Gabe we don't have much support" WOW !! wtf is going on? Personally I don't care for K the San Gabe business rep I had him tell me some things about the contract that did not add up and later I found out that he was just guessing or just :censored: me. But thats not the point Im trying to make, G truly believes that he has San Gabe all on his side and believes that 70-80% of the votes from San Gabe will be in his favor. I scratch my head wondering where he gets all this info but now I'm scratching my head thinking is G a leader or a dreamer?? My building is a building that has historically supported H and I do not see any change in that during this coming election. I will cut to the chase, Olympic Hub has no G support, it's ludicrous to believe that L would bring Olympic home for G. Richard told me in confidence that he would not have considered L for a Trustee position but that he thought that Hugo could bring him some votes, he stated to me and others of his team that Hugo was a gamble, that he is not the sharps tool in the shed, but that if Hugo can recruit 200 plus people to go to Raider games that he could easily convert those 200 eople into G supporters and get them all to cast their ballots in his favor. ARE YOU :censored2:SERIOUS????? REALLY??? not only did I start to realize how out of touch G is but also that he is willing to do anything and use anyone to try to win this election. I wondered and could not stop thinking what the true reason was for him offering me a job.? Cerritos - No comment / do not know or have I really heard anything to give my opinion. San Fernando - Same as Cerritos Van Nuys - No comment hear either, actually there is, I have a good friend and know a steward very well and I'm being told that business agent T is a decent representative and that the stewards all support H GV - No comment / do not know or have I really heard anything to give my opinion. N I hear you are out sick and have had some complications, my blessing are with you and wish you get better and well very soon. I know Vince from back in the old S O T O building in city of Vernon. This is how I reached my conclusion, G Slate is a total dysfunctional group. He has surrounded himself with some members that are not respected by their peers and have campaign tactics that surely will not secure votes in their favor. Jose M is a total turn off, this guy is probably Richard's favorite guy of the group, but his campaign tactics, way of talking and approaching members is undesirable and freaky. Richard has also on 2 or 3 different occasions called me the wrong name and in another occasion failed to remember my last name? He has really pushed for my support and has told me how much he respects me and has always valued me. NOW I REALIZE HOW OUT OF TOUCH IS RICHARD AND HOW OUT OF TOUCH I WAS ALSO. The culmination of idiots who only rant negativity and fabrication of stories to further their agenda does not sit well with me and my character. I will not be supporting the G Slate, my main reason is M as a whole and Richard's lack of understanding of reality, his lack of leadership, a real leader would not allow the low classless acts that Jose M displays! RICHARD, M IS A DIRECT REFLECTION OF YOU AND WHAT YOUR SLATE REPRESENTS, YOUR FAILURE TO SEE THIS AND TAKE ACTIONS TO CORRECT THIS ONLY LEAVES A SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH AND MAKES ME WONDER WHAT THE FUTURE WOULD HOLD FOR ME AND OUR MEMBERSHIP IF YOU SOMEHOW GOT ELECTED! for the record, will I vote for Ron??? well that I don't know yet, it's not Ron but somebody who works for him misguided me and Ron promised me that he would deal with that agent and nothing ever happen to that agent. I am going to reflect on everything, but I will also say this, I have taken some time already to think of all the options and different scenarios and what I do know is that G is not the best person to lead our Local into the future. I will most likely vote for H, I wish he would fire an agent that I complained about, but the reality is that regardless of my issue with the bully that works for him I finally realized this, I have not once been to a Union meeting, never been a stewards nor have I been involved in Union events or issues, so since I have never been in no shape or form involved with our Local I felt that my lack of experience would not be a wise nor fair for our members of our Local. This will be what I will take with me before making my decision. -Do I go with experience or do I roll the dice? -Do I trust G on who will he hire to represent our membership? (that includes myself, he doesn't feel I would be a good Business Agent, he believes I could bring him 100 or so votes) Listen, make a wise decision, but for me it will come to this. EXPERIENCE or NO EXPERIENCE?? Peace and love to all [/QUOTE]
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