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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 533196" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p>Tie, did you actually read the article that you linked? It doesn't say that Zarqawi was "living openly in Baghdad", it specifically says that he was working out of Kirma, in a Kurdish controlled area in the northern no-fly zone where, ironically, he was protected from the Iraqi regime by our Kurdish allies on the ground and US airpower in the air. The article is making the point that the reason the Bush administration didn't take action is because in doing so they might have had to explain why an al-qaeda operative had to hide out in northern Iraq where he was safe from the Iraqi regime, an explanation that would have undermined one of the key rationales for the war, ie, that there was cooperation between Saddam and AQ.</p><p></p><p>As far as protecting Pelosi, you've got the wrong guy. I have no doubt the democratic congressional leaders were complicit in enabling the Bush administration's torture policies. My own preference is for an indepenent prosecutor, with unlimited time, scope, and funding, who's job would be to investigate if war crimes (that's torture, in case you're wondering) were commited, and to bring charges against any and all involved. "I was just following orders" would not be an excuse either, any more than it was at Nuremberg or My Lai.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Strange world isnt it? I remember when all good americans, regardless of politics, opposed things like torture, secret prisons where detainees were held for years without being charged with any crimes, warrantless wiretapping, to name just a few. Now apparently the only people who oppose them are "liberal democrats". Reminds me a little of Animal Farm, and how the 7 Commandments kept changing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 533196, member: 4805"] Tie, did you actually read the article that you linked? It doesn't say that Zarqawi was "living openly in Baghdad", it specifically says that he was working out of Kirma, in a Kurdish controlled area in the northern no-fly zone where, ironically, he was protected from the Iraqi regime by our Kurdish allies on the ground and US airpower in the air. The article is making the point that the reason the Bush administration didn't take action is because in doing so they might have had to explain why an al-qaeda operative had to hide out in northern Iraq where he was safe from the Iraqi regime, an explanation that would have undermined one of the key rationales for the war, ie, that there was cooperation between Saddam and AQ. As far as protecting Pelosi, you've got the wrong guy. I have no doubt the democratic congressional leaders were complicit in enabling the Bush administration's torture policies. My own preference is for an indepenent prosecutor, with unlimited time, scope, and funding, who's job would be to investigate if war crimes (that's torture, in case you're wondering) were commited, and to bring charges against any and all involved. "I was just following orders" would not be an excuse either, any more than it was at Nuremberg or My Lai. Strange world isnt it? I remember when all good americans, regardless of politics, opposed things like torture, secret prisons where detainees were held for years without being charged with any crimes, warrantless wiretapping, to name just a few. Now apparently the only people who oppose them are "liberal democrats". Reminds me a little of Animal Farm, and how the 7 Commandments kept changing. [/QUOTE]
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