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The Western Conference and Local 177 H&W DISASTER!
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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1221699" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p><strong>Re: The Western Conference and Local 177 H&amp;W DISASTER!</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never said to vote NO on this proposal. I stated that Prior to yesterday, we did not have ANY details about this plan. Did you mis read what I wrote? After consideration of all the NOW facts of our situation, I can see no purpose in voting NO.</p><p></p><p>There is nothing to gain.</p><p></p><p>We already lost a superior plan. To define superior, so you can understand it, a plan that "we" did not have to pay for whether out of our pension or front pockets.</p><p></p><p>We lost, in the fact that five years from now, we will have to pay for it. </p><p></p><p>We lost, in that we have no control over the direction the teamsters will take in negotiations. They have clearly negotiated for themselves and not us.</p><p></p><p>The only thing "we" as members can control is our future destiny by replacing the "negotiators" before the next contract expires. Some locals have already done so, and others are about to. Those that skated by and won reelection by 38 points will face re election again before the next contract, and hopefully, the opposition will coordinate with each other and run ONE slate in order to defeat the incumbents.</p><p></p><p>This WR177 isnt a victory for UPS teamsters, and only the first step to larger out of pocket expenses come the next contract.</p><p></p><p>For guys like you Laguna, your the typical shirt tailer, devoid of the larger issues at hand. Your expertise on donut dispensing hardly qualifies you as an expert on negotiations.</p><p></p><p>I on the other hand, can examine all options and weigh out whats best for me.</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1221699, member: 17969"] [b]Re: The Western Conference and Local 177 H&W DISASTER![/b] I never said to vote NO on this proposal. I stated that Prior to yesterday, we did not have ANY details about this plan. Did you mis read what I wrote? After consideration of all the NOW facts of our situation, I can see no purpose in voting NO. There is nothing to gain. We already lost a superior plan. To define superior, so you can understand it, a plan that "we" did not have to pay for whether out of our pension or front pockets. We lost, in the fact that five years from now, we will have to pay for it. We lost, in that we have no control over the direction the teamsters will take in negotiations. They have clearly negotiated for themselves and not us. The only thing "we" as members can control is our future destiny by replacing the "negotiators" before the next contract expires. Some locals have already done so, and others are about to. Those that skated by and won reelection by 38 points will face re election again before the next contract, and hopefully, the opposition will coordinate with each other and run ONE slate in order to defeat the incumbents. This WR177 isnt a victory for UPS teamsters, and only the first step to larger out of pocket expenses come the next contract. For guys like you Laguna, your the typical shirt tailer, devoid of the larger issues at hand. Your expertise on donut dispensing hardly qualifies you as an expert on negotiations. I on the other hand, can examine all options and weigh out whats best for me. TOS [/QUOTE]
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