Is UPS Self Insured and how does that affect UPS as far as Obamacare? It shouldn't, business as usual the way I see it !
Self insured as far as liability for it's properties, vehicles, equipment, workers comp etc. As far as healthcare goes, UPS contracts BCBS & Aetna. Your insurance card should verify that.
If I understand it right Aetna/Blue Cross are a third party that handles the claims process. UPS pays the claims. UPS does not pay premiums to Aetna/Blue Cross. I may be wrong.
Sounds logical. Either way I don't think anyone is exemt from Obamacare...except congress. They don't want that crap!
Self insured as far as liability for it's properties, vehicles, equipment, workers comp etc. As far as healthcare goes, UPS contracts BCBS & Aetna. Your insurance card should verify that.
If I understand it right Aetna/Blue Cross are a third party that handles the claims process. UPS pays the claims. UPS does not pay premiums to Aetna/Blue Cross. I may be wrong.
Good lord.
Didn't we just prove the other day that congress isn't exempt.
You guys can never win an argument without lying .
Obamacare will raise the price of insurance in general due to regulations, so it will affect us. Costs will skyrocket. Many doctors are already leaving their practice. Wait until the Cadillac limits are lowered!
Anyway, the whole thing is designed to fail.
Obamacare will raise the price of insurance in general due to regulations, so it will affect us. Costs will skyrocket. Many doctors are already leaving their practice. Wait until the Cadillac limits are lowered!
Anyway, the whole thing is designed to fail.
Hey bagels, you seem pretty smart. Are y0u actually suggesting a one gun restriction too? before you know it black helicoptors gonna take all that away. Your stuck just being you. Waiting in line for toilet paper and teeth----. Oh, wait---thats for our health care and retirement system patients. Nice to meet you by the way. Good Luck!!!
To be replaced by a one-payer system which is the plan so it is not really failure.
Ya I guess that depends on your perspective. If you bought the lie that Obamacare was going to cure our system in it's current form & bring down costs then it would appear to be a failure. On the other had If you could see it for what it is, the incremental degrading of our current system until single payer is the only alternative, then it is flowing exactly as planned.
So did he have private insurance or not? You contradict youself by saying the private insurers turned down his opperation.It was never sold as a "cure," but rather an attempt to stabilize the system. There will always be too much resistance toward a single payer system, although it's likely that many underinsured people will eventually move into the exchanges. Remember, many "insured" people are on predatory policies, including "private" insurance that relies exclusively on employee contributions -- typically up to $1000 --- and limits pay outs to about $3000-$5000 -- which you won't get unless you're seriously ill (and even then it won't do much to help).
My uncle is adamantly opposed to ObamaCare -- he thinks it's his right to go without health insurance. Yet a few years ago, he had a liver transplant -- at a government hospital, no less, ultimately costing taxpayers over $1M since he also believes it's his right not to pay a single penny toward the bills. Funny thing was he was left to die -- given his age & health they decided he was not the best candiate for a transplant (hey, even private insurers have death panels!) and was sent home w/arranged hospice. Then, for whatever reason, they airlifted him halfway across the country at the last minute. He's still ungrateful. Nobody deserves to die, but he certainly didn't deserve the "gift" he received.
So did he have private insurance or not? You contradict youself by saying the private insurers turned down his opperation.
He had no insurance, but there are already people making decisions for us based on cost. I've had a lifelong illness, and UPS/Aetna/BCBS/Kaiser (or whoever else they switch to) has long told me which medications I should be taking. My "preferred" medication costly slightly more -- and I'm willing to pay for the difference and then some -- and has a longer life expectancy than the one they insist I take. But hey, they'd rather me die sooner than later... save the company $$$$.