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<blockquote data-quote="bbsam" data-source="post: 824798" data-attributes="member: 22662"><p>Here it is, Island. It is your assertion that these "poor minority parents are involved with the education of their children". Ok. But when you speak of nation wide test scores, you are speaking of a much larger set, not only the kids depictied in the documentary. When colleges and universities report that a substantial portion of the incoming freshmen are ill-prepared to start high-school let alone college, the problem is bigger than what happens with the "poor minority parents". It's not a "poor minority parents" problem, but that may factor into it. So if the set of students not learning what they need to learn is far larger than the "poor minority parents" and their kids, then it only stands to reason that there are other factors contributing. So while you want to insist that "it must be Obama's fault" because of what this documentary says, I still believe the problems with educating children largely center in the home whether it is in the form of child abuse, divorce, too much time on the computer, x-box, TV, etc. these things all weigh heavily on education. Note that nothing I have mentioned is unique to "poor minority parents" and none of them are going to be alleviated by charter schools. So what was the pupose of the documentary anyway? Was it to address the problem or to slam Obama? Maybe Obama did cave to the teacher's union. He did it on allowing the Bush tax cuts to continue. But that is not to say that he's not in favor of charter schools any more it is to say that he loves the Bush tax cuts. He's the same as every president we've ever had. He comes to office with a certain ideology and soon finds himself faced with political reality. If you can't see that, I have to wonder, what planet are you from????</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bbsam, post: 824798, member: 22662"] Here it is, Island. It is your assertion that these "poor minority parents are involved with the education of their children". Ok. But when you speak of nation wide test scores, you are speaking of a much larger set, not only the kids depictied in the documentary. When colleges and universities report that a substantial portion of the incoming freshmen are ill-prepared to start high-school let alone college, the problem is bigger than what happens with the "poor minority parents". It's not a "poor minority parents" problem, but that may factor into it. So if the set of students not learning what they need to learn is far larger than the "poor minority parents" and their kids, then it only stands to reason that there are other factors contributing. So while you want to insist that "it must be Obama's fault" because of what this documentary says, I still believe the problems with educating children largely center in the home whether it is in the form of child abuse, divorce, too much time on the computer, x-box, TV, etc. these things all weigh heavily on education. Note that nothing I have mentioned is unique to "poor minority parents" and none of them are going to be alleviated by charter schools. So what was the pupose of the documentary anyway? Was it to address the problem or to slam Obama? Maybe Obama did cave to the teacher's union. He did it on allowing the Bush tax cuts to continue. But that is not to say that he's not in favor of charter schools any more it is to say that he loves the Bush tax cuts. He's the same as every president we've ever had. He comes to office with a certain ideology and soon finds himself faced with political reality. If you can't see that, I have to wonder, what planet are you from???? [/QUOTE]
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