flying dutchman
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Got my first warning letter today over something extremely stuped.. what does it basically boil down to?
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Leftinbuilding
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You were stuped (sic)? Or the company was stuped (sic)? And what does what boil down to?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Sap boils down to maple syrup in a 40 to 1 ratio.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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...and you are basing this on what? Could it be the OP deserved the warning letter for doing something stuped (sic)?
probellringer
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well deserved
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
A warning letter is nothing but a piece of paper.
Its validity, or lack thereof, will be determined at the next step of the disciplinary process, which is a suspension.
Many of the warning letters we see being issued today are nothing but an excercise in job justification for the supervisor who is simply trying to generate a sufficient volume of them to meet a quota. There is no reason to take them seriously as a threat to one's job security.
It will ultimately be up to a grievance panel to determine whether or not the supposed infraction is worthy of any actual disciplinary action.
Its validity, or lack thereof, will be determined at the next step of the disciplinary process, which is a suspension.
Many of the warning letters we see being issued today are nothing but an excercise in job justification for the supervisor who is simply trying to generate a sufficient volume of them to meet a quota. There is no reason to take them seriously as a threat to one's job security.
It will ultimately be up to a grievance panel to determine whether or not the supposed infraction is worthy of any actual disciplinary action.
menotyou
bella amicizia
Always, Always, Always rebut an attempted discipline. No matter how small. Always rebut.
Tomorrow is a different day. Try not being extremely stupid and you won't have another useless piece of paper.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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What if the warning letter is deserved?
What's your point? Why would you do something deserving of a warning letter?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The OP said he did something extremely stuped (sic) so perhaps he deserved the warning letter.
Oh, I see. In that case I would tuck my tail between my legs and lie low for a while.
trickpony1
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It doesn't matter if the letter was deserved. Always protest any warning letter.
What if the OP does something within the next nine month window, no matter how inadvertant, and he ends up getting fired and going to panel?
"Tell us, sir, you got a warning letter less than nine months ago and you didn't rebut or protest it so you are essentially saying you are guilty of the last infraction and then you get another letter recently and they fire you for it?"
Doesn't look good.
Not protesting a letter is an admission of guilt.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Whatever happened to personal accountability?
Backlasher
Stronger, Faster, Browner
What is the extremly stupid action that was done?
Inquiring minds want 2 know.
Extremly stupid is asking a question without really asking a question!!
How can we give you anything without anything giving!
Inquiring minds want 2 know.
Extremly stupid is asking a question without really asking a question!!
How can we give you anything without anything giving!
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
The way I read the original post, its hard to tell if he got the warning letter for doing something stupid or if the warning letter itself is stupid (failing to honk the horn etc.). If he wants input from others he needs to clarify and elaborate what is actually going on.
YouKnowWhoIam
Banned
Went out the window when discipline became more about harassment than safety.
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