Warning Letter

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Pre-Load Mule, Aug 8, 2016.

  1. Pre-Load Mule

    Pre-Load Mule New Member

    I had to join a meeting today that a pre-loader was written up for not following the correct loading methods. They only had two load audit to show and he does not remember ever having the audits gone over with him. From what I understand there's no documentation showing that he received a verbal warning in the write up they are stating that they will be sending out a warning letter. Should we file a grievance whenever he receives the warning letter?
     
  2. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    Are you a union steward? Thank heaven you're not my steward.....FFS.
     
  3. Pre-Load Mule

    Pre-Load Mule New Member


    Just started as one so trying to learn the ropes still.
     
  4. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Let em mail the warning ltr. Here they have to hand it to the hourly with a steward. If they miss the ten day deadline the warning ltr is nullified... normally after we file on it.
     
  5. Pre-Load Mule

    Pre-Load Mule New Member


    What language in the contract do you use to file on?? I am waiting on my BA to call me back out it but there's no telling how long that'll take.
     
  6. Gimme Danger

    Gimme Danger Active Member

    Grieve article 7 (and your supplemental article on discipline) and article 37.
     
  7. Pre-Load Mule

    Pre-Load Mule New Member


    I do appreciate it greatly
     
  8. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    What area are you from? Are you covered by the central region language?
     
  9. Pre-Load Mule

    Pre-Load Mule New Member

    No Atlantic region
     
  10. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    They don't need to give a verbal warning before giving a written warning letter. For any infraction, except attendance, they can go straight to a warning letter.

    Progressive discipline is NOT verbal warning, warning letter, suspension, discharge.

    Progressive discipline IS warning letter, suspension, discharge.

    That being said, grieve the warning letter, but do not base it on not receiving a verbal first. They don't have to.
     
  11. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    I have gotten 2 warning letters over my yrs. But ,I refused delivery. Never heard a thing about it. Wonder what happens to them? I look at it as what a waste of their time. Just to shuffle paper
     
  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    This has been my experience as well.
    What I will add is to always take notes, with the date, who's in the room, details of the infraction, what was said by all parties, and the company's disposition including the contractual article sited.
    By doing so, sometimes you can prove inconsistencies and assist your BA in the grievance process.
     
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  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    They are in your file.
     
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  14. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    Guess I'll have to visit a paper shredder
     
  15. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    That's not every local's practice.
    There's one in Ohio that has verbal as step one.
    Here they have to hand it to the hourly, in person, and with the steward present.
    Send it in the mail and after ten days of notification it'll go away in a hearing.
     
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  16. They send ours certified
     
  17. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    I've had them come both certified and regular mail. Win!
     
  18. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    We have a settled grievance that the disposition is the co has to hand it to the victim with a steward present.
     
  19. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    As we all know, there are exceptions to every rule. I would be curious to know if this was a local agreement between the two parties or if they have a local rider with the afformentioned policy.

    In any case, I could probably count on one hand the number of locals that may have a similar policy, but good point. The OP said he was contacting his BA. I'm sure his BA knows their local's policy.
     
  20. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    It was settled out of a Steward's grievance. It did not affect just one employee but the whole building.