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<blockquote data-quote="bbsam" data-source="post: 663779" data-attributes="member: 22662"><p>I wasn't the one bashing the union, that would be MrFedex. He called them "weak and pathetic". I just think it's just as weak and pathetic for him and others to wait for the calvary to come riding in to unionize the company from the outside.</p><p></p><p>I only called one driver "silly little driver" and that was you. In response to your suggesting why it was that I waste my time here and produce such hideous posts. I believe my exact post went something like "Silly little driver. I waste time because I have time." Now somehow you have construed that to mean all drivers everywhere.</p><p></p><p>Fear the union? Anything but. I still don't see any movement toward it either from within or from without. I peruse this site and see the turmoil between company and union, union member and union member, and union officials and those who want to take their places and I am inclined to believe more and more that MrFedex is right to call them "weak and pathetic".</p><p></p><p>Here's the rub. The union needs to learn how to talk to a new generation. Reagan and the Republicans packaged a horrid trickle down de-regulated economic system that 30-somethings and younger have seen their entire lives. This is the norm. Talking of "making millions on the backs of the poor" doesn't resonate. Telling people that their getting screwed at $14/hr. doesn't mean crap to the guy got laid off at John Deere 6 months after his great union benefits kicked in. And you wonder why people would shun the union? After what's happened in Detroit? And no, that is not to say that it is the union's fault. It merely appears that when a union company hits the skids, the fall is that much harder. Where does a 50 year old auto builder go to make $30 an hour and keep the house he still has 10 years to pay on? Looking from the outside in, I think people are simply going to be happy to be employed. From that perspective I reiterate: The union needs to find a message to reach these people. I think MrFedex would concur. In fact I think he's right in that if someone doesn't make a move soon, the best opportunity for unionizing may be missed. Again, I don't see it happening.</p><p></p><p>And finally, I am who I say I am and my motivation is profit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bbsam, post: 663779, member: 22662"] I wasn't the one bashing the union, that would be MrFedex. He called them "weak and pathetic". I just think it's just as weak and pathetic for him and others to wait for the calvary to come riding in to unionize the company from the outside. I only called one driver "silly little driver" and that was you. In response to your suggesting why it was that I waste my time here and produce such hideous posts. I believe my exact post went something like "Silly little driver. I waste time because I have time." Now somehow you have construed that to mean all drivers everywhere. Fear the union? Anything but. I still don't see any movement toward it either from within or from without. I peruse this site and see the turmoil between company and union, union member and union member, and union officials and those who want to take their places and I am inclined to believe more and more that MrFedex is right to call them "weak and pathetic". Here's the rub. The union needs to learn how to talk to a new generation. Reagan and the Republicans packaged a horrid trickle down de-regulated economic system that 30-somethings and younger have seen their entire lives. This is the norm. Talking of "making millions on the backs of the poor" doesn't resonate. Telling people that their getting screwed at $14/hr. doesn't mean crap to the guy got laid off at John Deere 6 months after his great union benefits kicked in. And you wonder why people would shun the union? After what's happened in Detroit? And no, that is not to say that it is the union's fault. It merely appears that when a union company hits the skids, the fall is that much harder. Where does a 50 year old auto builder go to make $30 an hour and keep the house he still has 10 years to pay on? Looking from the outside in, I think people are simply going to be happy to be employed. From that perspective I reiterate: The union needs to find a message to reach these people. I think MrFedex would concur. In fact I think he's right in that if someone doesn't make a move soon, the best opportunity for unionizing may be missed. Again, I don't see it happening. And finally, I am who I say I am and my motivation is profit. [/QUOTE]
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